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Prominent Texas car dealer's 17-year-old son is shot dead on Christmas Eve (TR)
UK Daily Mail ^ | 12/26/2017 | SNEJANA FARBEROV

Posted on 12/26/2017 12:04:16 PM PST by DFG

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To: silverleaf

There is a lot of scum out there and they all have parents.


41 posted on 12/26/2017 1:41:39 PM PST by Bonemaker
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To: DFG

Poor choices for what we hear is a “victim-less crime.”


42 posted on 12/26/2017 1:43:28 PM PST by Uncle Sam 911
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To: DFG
Most 17 teen year old think they are bullet proof and know it all...

At least he died being a great example of what not to do...

43 posted on 12/26/2017 1:55:00 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: DFG

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

But another good reason for legalization.


44 posted on 12/26/2017 2:01:23 PM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I know the song as well.


45 posted on 12/26/2017 2:14:33 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: silverleaf

I get that chance every day.

Every time one of my four kids does something wrong... I blame myself.

Luckily most of the stuff they do wrong is fairly minor, because I take parenting very seriously. But the true test of how good a parent you are is seeing how your grandchildren turn out.


46 posted on 12/26/2017 2:31:33 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“But the true test of how good a parent you are is seeing how your grandchildren turn out.”

Sounds warm and fuzzy, but not true. You have absolutely no direct control over your grandkids. Needless to say, you do not have any control over how your son’s wife raise the kids or how your daughter’s husband raise them. If you think you do, you’re already senile.


47 posted on 12/26/2017 2:44:19 PM PST by sagar
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To: DFG

...........into EVERYONE’s Life a little rain must fall.................!


48 posted on 12/26/2017 2:53:20 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: sagar

lol

man your life must be a mess (or will be)

if you teach your children properly they will feel compelled to pass those exact lessons to their children.

If you teach them poorly... they will purposely decide to teach their own children a completely different lesson. If this happens.... you failed.

Anytime a kid asks you “why” to something, you had better have a good answer. “because I said so it not enough”

And as far as “your sons wife” goes... again completely YOUR fault. Obviously you didn’t teach them the importance of picking the proper mate and the qualities that mate should possess.

A child knows nothing. Any failure on it’s part is a ultimately a failure in your parenting. The sad thing is... you can’t just start fixing things when they start falling apart, the foundation has to be laid when they are VERY small. But the time you start reaping what you have sown... it is FAR to late to become super parent then.


49 posted on 12/26/2017 3:06:44 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I told my kids from the time they could walk and remember that the time would come one day when they “think” they know it all.. but in fact will know almost nothing. That their brains would stop working properly and that during that exact time it would be more important than ever to listen to what my wife and I are trying to say.

I have also told them just as long that the most important decision they would ever make in their lives would be the choice of a mate. And that it would be in their best interest to seek out our advice about anyone they are seeking to marry. Because nothing will ruin your life quicker and the lives of your children than a bad choice of a mate. Even if nearly every other choice you ever made was right... the choice of a poor mate trumps them all. And I told them all the above MANY ... MANY ... MANY times.


50 posted on 12/26/2017 3:13:02 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: silverleaf

If they are scum, then yes it is a true statement.
And honestly, coddling people often does more harm than good.
Case in point, dead guy likely was coddled his whole life.


51 posted on 12/26/2017 3:21:20 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: DFG
shot and killed while trying to sell marijuana

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

52 posted on 12/26/2017 3:44:24 PM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

if only weed was legal, all our troubles would be over...


53 posted on 12/26/2017 3:45:48 PM PST by cherry
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To: editor-surveyor

Well, can’t prove it either way, so it becomes a parents prerogative to believe the best about their children, not just blind belief and naiveté but performance based observation nearly 100 years of cumulative parent/child relationships.

Sad to think you assume that your kids just lie and quibble or withhold from you.

Sure, my children have had tough times, divorces, even a few legal issues, but none are in jail or ought o be, none are flotsam a or jetsam and debris on the side of the road, all pay taxes, are professionally employed and productive- now, I do have nephew who is a derelict, but he isn’t close so I/we had no chance of influence either way.


54 posted on 12/26/2017 3:45:58 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Little Ray

The latter has to be sarcasm....

But, I know better. Whatever.

Legalizing mind altering and addictive drugs ( more of them) will make it all okay, here’s a cuddly “wubby” to hold on to while you pipe dream about nirvana or some such drivel.

Reality takes real people, doing real things, sucking it up and making it better....


55 posted on 12/26/2017 3:50:25 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: DFG

Play stupid games...
RIP.


56 posted on 12/26/2017 5:45:22 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: DFG

Kid should have just said no.


57 posted on 12/26/2017 5:48:50 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Manly Warrior

Did Prohibition work so well, that you think it is great idea to try it with a different substance?

I’d rather let potheads smoke than put them in prison.


58 posted on 12/26/2017 7:04:50 PM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Little Ray

Your counter is so silly and meant only to throw rotten fish into a serious discussion.

No, I am not happy that some 80,000 people are killed annually by alcohol related causes. But sure, let’s make that 160,000 by unleashing the rest of the behavior altering drugs too. We all should be able to recount to our friends how we have experienced the loss or injury of a family member, just for “freedom’s sake, by a toker or a tweaker or a drunk. Life is hard enough.

Don’t get me wrong, I fully agree that one should be able to exercise all of their endowed natural rights-—as long as the exercise thereof does not infringe on my or any one else’s exercise of theirs (life liberty pursuit of happiness).

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics

{Alcohol-Related Deaths:
An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.9 
In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).}

Yes, I do not drink nor use drugs casually and certainly not “recreationally”, as I am a responsible adult. And while we are at it, yes, I have had sex with exactly one woman ( by the grace of God and self-restraint)- my wife of 35 years- and no, I do not live under a cabbage. I am normal. What are you?

Munching?


59 posted on 12/27/2017 3:03:23 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Little Ray

Your counter is so silly and meant only to throw rotten fish into a serious discussion.

No, I am not happy that some 80,000 people are killed annually by alcohol related causes. But sure, let’s make that 160,000 by unleashing the rest of the behavior altering drugs too. We all should be able to recount to our friends how we have experienced the loss or injury of a family member, just for “freedom’s sake, by a toker or a tweaker or a drunk. Life is hard enough.

Don’t get me wrong, I fully agree that one should be able to exercise all of their endowed natural rights-—as long as the exercise thereof does not infringe on my or any one else’s exercise of theirs (life liberty pursuit of happiness).

https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics

{Alcohol-Related Deaths:
An estimated 88,0008 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women8) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making alcohol the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States. The first is tobacco, and the second is poor diet and physical inactivity.9 
In 2014, alcohol-impaired driving fatalities accounted for 9,967 deaths (31 percent of overall driving fatalities).}

Yes, I do not drink nor use drugs casually and certainly not “recreationally”, as I am a responsible adult. And while we are at it, yes, I have had sex with exactly one woman ( by the grace of God and self-restraint)- my wife of 35 years- and no, I do not live under a cabbage. I am normal. What are you?

Munching?


60 posted on 12/27/2017 3:04:17 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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