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Posted on 12/07/2017 12:29:12 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
Blaming the West is debatable
According to Igor Strelkov, the outside world is fundamentally opposed to the emergence of a strong, sovereign Russian nation. He even claimed that Vladimir Putin and Russia's ruling oligarchy are in fact Western puppets.
Alexey Navalny dismissed the idea of a global conspiracy against Russia, arguing that international competition is normal. Russia's biggest enemy, he said, isn't the West, but the actions of its own political leadership. Navalny also endorsed the West's sanctions against targeted Russian economic sectors and Putin-connected oligarchs, telling Strelkov that Russians should be most concerned with domestic problems.
The war in Ukraine remains a litmus test for Russian patriotism...
(Excerpt) Read more at meduza.io ...
Alexei Anatolievich Navalny is a Russian lawyer, political and financial activist. A regular participant in Russian March, since 2009, he has gained prominence in Russia, and in the Russian and international media, as a critic of corruption and of Russian President Vladimir Putin. He has organized large-scale demonstrations promoting reform and attacking political corruption...(Wikipedia)
Well, thanks to CNN and domestic Russian equals Russia has two moderately popular Illinois Nazis. What’s your point?
Hmm...maybe not “puppets” exactly (more like Western globalist elites are controlled by THEM if anything)...but the oligarchs sure love their real estate holdings in London, Miami, and NYC...not to mention all their cash stashed in Western banks...
And one more *PING*
Sputnik & Pogrom is the (what liberals would call alt-right) publication rather popular with Russian young-ins. Here was their response to Putin’s announcement for staying out a 4th Term. (Translated)
Note: When they lament “Latin Americanization” of Russian culture, they’re referring to POP culture, not immigration. Immigration to Russia is primarily from Central Asia, which they also lament.
“Vkonkakte” is the Russian version of Facebook.
Another 6 years under the rule of a pensioner, who in 2017 does not use a computer and the Internet. Another 6 years of bans and restrictions, idiotic criminal cases, impotent rabies from the fact that people are ruined by fates because of the pictures “vkontakte”, and you can not do anything. Another 6 years of paranoia and search for agents, enemies and spies. 6 years of trash patriotism and broadcasts from a drunken rural disco, for some reason called the “Duma”. 6 years of cunning plans and multi-method geopolitical combinations.
6 years of assistance to Syria, assistance to the Sudan, who they will find there. 6 years of anti-intellectualism, with a cop and a worker (and also a worker ment) as an ideal citizen. 6 years of devouring the remnants of the private economy and increasing the state’s share of GDP while simultaneously lowering government obligations. 6 years of Soviet revenge under the joyful squeal of Soviet shortages, to which youth returned under Brezhnev. 6 years of inglorious wars with anonymous heroes and secret awards. 6 years of struggle against Russian fascism and cultivation instead of Russian “Russians”. 6 years of multinationality and unlimited migration from Central Asia. 6 years of annual increase in the incidence of AIDS.
6 years of spirituality with shiny lips and foie gras. 6 years of obgazhivaniya and rewriting of real Russian history. 6 years of struggle with the middle class. 6 years of growth of the power device. 6 years of further Latin Americanization and cultural degeneration. 6 years of lies and offshore firms, 6 years of continuing to grow rich friends in judo, 6 years of anonymous daughters and grandchildren in half with the ban on anonymity for the civilian population. 6 years of oil trade, 6 years of nanotechnology and imports of high-tech products.
6 years in the arms of a Soviet ghoul who is not dying, who squeezed your neck with his rotten teeth and tries to squeeze, squeeze, squeeze. 6 years of Soviet stinking flesh, trying to devour you.
6 years of Median. 6 years old Kadyrov. 6 years of heart. 6 years of boboculums. 6 years of Rottenberg. 6 years of Minsk agreements. 6 years of damask. 6 years of turmoil. 6 years of bear. 6 years of SORM. 6 years CPE. 6 years of ILV. 6 years of FSB.
6 years of eating out the soul and stretching out the life of cynicism and emptiness, when everyone “pours” about “values” with pleasure, and real values are a mansion in London or, like a member of the Federation Council Suleiman Kerimov, at Cape Antibes along the Côte d’Azur of France. 6 years of schizophrenia, when we “fight the West” and “take our families to the West,” when “popular support” and “there is a danger of the Maidan”, when “stability” and “no money, but you hold on”. 6 years of untruth. 6 years of meaningless words. 6 years of imitation of politics, social, economic and cultural life.
Another 6 years of government of people who do not believe in anything and do not want anything, and therefore the suffering they cause is especially offensive - it is hard not to suffer for the sake of an idea, however crazy, but simply because leverage is greedy and inept impostors with trembling hands.
Senselessness is what kills most. And so our task, the task of all honest Russian people for the next 6 years - to live and work for the benefit of the Russian nation with the maximum meaning, increasing the number of awakened Russians, expanding the popularity of Russian nationalism, collecting, preserving and spreading the knowledge that the Russians could live differently and can live differently, that the RF is only an unhappy period, and not the destiny of the Russian people.
It will be hard. If the Americans after the investigation of Mueller cut the “Iranian” sanctions, then there will begin mass planting and a complete sweep of all who are at least slightly out of step. And if you do not cut it, then slow decay will continue, which is only slightly better. But we have to survive this, because we Russian nationalists are the real Russia - and not this here is the cosplay with Mikhalkov and pancakes on the shovel - and the history of Russia and the Russians will not end until the captors who have seized power destroy the latter of us who know that the Russian Federation is just an illusion, a long-stretched political technological trick, a circus focus with armed clowns armed with real nagans, and not how the Russians lived and how they will live.
We can not interfere with Putin’s re-election, we can not explain to the ruling class of impostors what it means to be masters and not ready to tick every minute through the window, but we can, we need to tell other Russian people about real Russia, Russian glory and Russian honor, multiplying the number of awakened Russian, Russian nationalists, even when Putin cuts off the Internet and closes the border. Especially when he cuts off the Internet and closes the border.
Do not expect anything. Do not rely on anything. You are all that is left of 1000 years of Russian history and statehood, and in the mind after the Red Terror you should not even be. Three generations, you, the Russian nationalists, cleaned it clean. But you still revived despite all the theories and concepts, after just two genocides - physical and cultural, Russian culture was too tough for even a colossal totalitarian state with total propaganda and all-encompassing power apparatus.
It APPEARS they have a vibrant free press in Russia.
Well Alexey Navalny had that debate with Strelkov on a stint while he was not in jail for once! (He makes his way into jail every 90 days or so. This month, it’s Leonid Volkov, his campaign manager currently sitting in a prison at Ninny Novgorod.)
And you know regarding “free press” well...they try...
“Russia blocks the nationalist website Sputnik & Pogrom according to a familiar, vague censorship formula”
What kind of stuff is this Navalny fella getting charged with?
Is it trumped up, or legitimate violations of law?
I know here in the US people in power are able to rig the prosecutorial system to benefit their friends and punish their enemies.
Sometimes it’s egregious.
I suspect other countries have a similar problem.
Holding “unsanctioned” protests even in the outskirts of the provinces. Mostly made up of crowds of under-30s. Some wearing red MAGA caps to note their inspiration from the Trump movement.
This is the video that launched the protests that freaked out the Kremlin this year. 25 million views. With English subtitles.
The First Amendment is a wonderful thing.
It does not exist in ANY form in any other nation.
Sure he is, and he's got friends
For those of you fluent in Russian:
That is the point dear Patriot:
Igor Strelkov (who I assure you is in no way affiliated with Soros) and Navalny were *debating.* and Strelkov has his issues with Putin too - even from his post guarding East Ukraine from the Ukrainians.
Even the “followers” of Navalny admit he’s not the best, but till better voices arise, he is the main face of the growing opposition: under which all kinds of perspectives are represented including hyper-nationalists like Strelkov.
So the tremendous surge of Russian Nationalists joined by your example of Russian Millennials, have got nothing, nada, zip to challenge Putin or offset his "nonexistant" popularity?
Further these Russian Nationalists and Millennials want a Russia like Soros' Eastern Europe with free drugs?
Not sure "Nationalist" is the word you're really wanting to use.
Vladimir Zhirinovsky exposing Navalny (English subs)
Navalny is unelectable and he knows it. He is corrupt as sin, a convicted felon (on corruption charges no less) and a rabid racist (a real thing not the modern political definition). On the other hand the current Ukrainian government were unelectable too as were Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt or Bolshies in St. Petersburg in 1917. Of course a little foreign intervention and a glorious revolution can fix that little unelectability issue and a little bunch of idiot supporters would make it look legitimate.
Bottom line is unless revolution considered all these jerks only makes Putin grip firmer sowing division within the left further splitting leftist supporters. If it would continue none of them would get enough votes to be in Duma and Russia would really become a one party state under Putin which is certainly not a good thing.
The video above is rather long but it worth seeing if you are interested in Russian politics. Generally I believe it shows there is a division within the Russian left and it is also an absolute spot on on Navalny.
As for Strelkov he has like zero influence. The only thing he is associated with in public opinion is downing of a Malaysian plane in Donetsk. Not a good starting point for a political career.
On the other hand the current Ukrainian government were unelectable too as were Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt or Bolshies in St. Petersburg in 1917. Of course a little foreign intervention and a glorious revolution can fix that little unelectability issue and a little bunch of idiot supporters would make it look legitimate.
Might Russia, (snicker) interfere in the Russian election?
Regardless of their actual actions we’d hear accusations to it.
Navy Patriot. You present a false dilemma between Soros and Putin! They are both two sides of the same evil coin even though they are avowed enemies.
It’s so disheartening...that in the country of George Washington, a man who rejected power time and time again, as a military general, as a potential king...
That citizens exist here all too ready to give the benefit of the doubt to Mr. 4-term Vladdy Poots.
There were a president for life FDR who are more recent than Washington. Would we give US Republic a benefit of a doubt based on it.
I don’t see your point. Do you think Navalny or Strelkov would make better president? If not who would?
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