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FAA investigates ANOTHER Air Canada incident at San Francisco Airport (tr)
UK Daily Mail ^ | 10/24/2017 | James Gordon

Posted on 10/24/2017 2:13:31 PM PDT by DFG

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Maybe the pilots had to jolt awake suddenly.
21 posted on 10/24/2017 3:52:50 PM PDT by Cecily
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Maybe they refused because the controller wasn’t speaking French.


22 posted on 10/24/2017 4:11:11 PM PDT by PAR35
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The solution would be to ban all Air Canada flights to the US until all of the planes have had a full maintenance routine, and all pilots have been re-certified.


23 posted on 10/24/2017 4:13:16 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: vette6387

I am too. I knew you were kidding. I wasn’t trying to lecture. Just state a fact so people might pick up a factoid if they didn’t know!

My main airports APF and I69.


24 posted on 10/24/2017 4:23:02 PM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: DFG

Canadian muslim pilots?


25 posted on 10/24/2017 4:49:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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The article seems to make very little of the fact that the flight was initially cleared to land. Is there no meaning to such a clearance?

It sounds to me like the tower made a terrible error and panicked when it appeared that they couldn't undo it.

26 posted on 10/24/2017 5:05:16 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Bartholomew Roberts; SkyDancer; vette6387

Actually, some French speaking Quebecois get a bit touchy about being addressed in English. Also, the world over, in all languages, if one doesn’t want to comply with instructions given over the radio, ‘garbled transmission’ is sometimes blamed for lack of compliance.

Back when commercial airlines were ferrying troops to Vietnam, an airliner was flying south on final approach to DaNang Air Force Base. The air traffic controller, who was probably a young enlisted man, was trying to launch two Phantoms to the north on an urgent Close Air Support mission.

To get the airliner out of the way, the controller told him, “Give me a Right 360 degree turn now”.

The airline pilot responded, “i’ll have you know it costs my airline $200 every time we make a 180 degree turn”.

The controller shot right back at him, “Then give me $400 worth to the right, immediately!”

In this instance, who knows. It may have been genuine comm problems.


27 posted on 10/25/2017 3:45:23 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: SES1066

Tower did use the light gun.


28 posted on 10/25/2017 6:27:31 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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Well it's the ICAO regulation and if an airport wants to be certified for commercial operations they have to abide.

And LOL on that turn.

29 posted on 10/25/2017 6:29:55 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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Maybe when they were given clearance to land they prematurely switched their radios from approach to ground control?


30 posted on 10/25/2017 6:35:50 AM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: PAR35

Seems reasonable to me - if they won’t follow the rules and legal instructions given them, thus jeopardizing the life, health, and property involved - they should be stopped. It would hit them in the pocketbook so quickly, they would either go bankrupt or comply post-haste


31 posted on 10/25/2017 9:24:29 AM PDT by TheBattman (Gun control works - just ask Chicago...)
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