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Motive of Shooter (Vanity)

Posted on 10/05/2017 8:01:12 AM PDT by blabs

So up to this point, we have an individual who had practically no social media presence or public footprint, no voting record, traveled heavily, had numerous homes which were paid for in cash, a foreigner for a girlfriend, wired $100,000 offshore to the Phillipines, was reclusive and never at home, had an abundance of money, an extremely large cache of weapons for someone who was not a “gun” guy, had worked for numerous government “contractors” most of which are in the defense and aerospace industry including Lockheed Martin, and recent revelations that there are strange inconsistencies with a previously owned airplane, hundreds of massive money withdrawals at casinos (possibly a front for money laundering), and other strange oddities. IMO, there are a lot of red flags here, and the big question remains - What was the MOTIVE? This guy did not just snap. This was a well planned operation. How about this for a motive -

All of this is hypothetical of course and don't necessarily believe in conspiracies, but for the sake of lively discussion lets say this guy was a spook, as there are quite a few hallmarks that point to this possibly being so. Or perhaps he was somehow intertwined in some type of government operation, at possibly a high level, and turned on the US government for a bigger payday. If you needed to move "something”, something large or irregular, something that would raise an eyebrow or attract attention from lets say law enforcement, such as state troopers, highway patrol, local police, or truck checkpoints, and you were on a “schedule/timeline” to get this “something” somewhere for a either a transfer/pickup/shipment, how could you help facilitate the transport? How could you help remove as much law enforcement presence from the route to aid in this transfer?

What if this shooting was merely a distraction for a much bigger plot? What better way to have practically all law enforcement personnel within a 50-100 mile radius move to the epicenter for all-hands-on-deck, helping to "clear" the route to the destination even at the cost of your own life (or perhaps was planning to escape, but was double crossed by a second shooter). What if the $100,000 was sent as funds to help facilitate this shipment/transfer to its final destination, such as China/Russia/North Korea, which are all not far from the Phillipines?

IMO, time is of the essence, and it would be prudent for the FBI/CIA to check all the highway camera footage on or around the time of the shooting for trucks/shipments that are conspicuous in nature, skipped check points, etc., especially en-route to the LA/Long Beach Port area. I would also check all vessel departures to the Phillipines/China/Russia/Korea area from the LA/Long Beach port on the night or the next day of the shooting. Again, this is all just hypothetical, and I'm not sure what this "something" could be, whether its small arms, military technology, or something bigger, but there are a lot of government/military facilities all around the Nevada area.

/Conspiracy Hat Off


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; paddock; shooter; vegas
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1 posted on 10/05/2017 8:01:12 AM PDT by blabs
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To: blabs

You could accomplish the same thing by hiring a kid to lead the cops on a two hour police pursuit.


2 posted on 10/05/2017 8:03:06 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: blabs

Spook is high on the list.


3 posted on 10/05/2017 8:03:10 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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4 posted on 10/05/2017 8:04:40 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

I agree, a lot of F’ed up people out there. But for the benefit of the doubt....


5 posted on 10/05/2017 8:05:39 AM PDT by blabs
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6 posted on 10/05/2017 8:05:43 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: reasonisfaith

Possible motives of a CIA perpetrator:

gun control

making the cultural rift even worse

eventual martial law


7 posted on 10/05/2017 8:05:58 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

If there are no alliances between antifa and CIA I will be very surprised.

Isis is right in the middle.


8 posted on 10/05/2017 8:06:53 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: blabs

Unfortunately, I don’t trust any of these 3-letter agencies anymore. It seems that they have become politicized and are frequently engaged in unconstitutional and illegal activities and are without any meaningful accountability or oversight.

Now I have to question the results of any investigation they produce: what malfeasance are they hiding from us?


9 posted on 10/05/2017 8:07:44 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: blabs

He was terrorist who is involved in Antifa or related radical group(s) carrying out the terrorist/war threat they bragged about. I think he was very much in line with the shooter who hit DC back in June.


10 posted on 10/05/2017 8:08:33 AM PDT by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: blabs
He lived in a house with no neighbors behind him and drew the ire of the HOA when he installed a mesh fence to keep people from viewing inside his home. He kept his distance from his neighbors, telling one of them, "I don't like looking at people and I don't like people looking at me."

This means you can rule out that he was marching around Reno carrying anti-Trump signs and wearing a pink pussy on his head. And you can rule out the notion that he had "13" tattooed on his neck.

11 posted on 10/05/2017 8:09:59 AM PDT by Drew68
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“What if the $100,000 was sent as funds to help facilitate this shipment/transfer to its final destination, such as China/Russia/North Korea, which are all not far from the Phillipines?”.....

One of my early suspicions as well, amazing how great minds think alike. Me? I trust NO ONE until otherwise proven wrong.


12 posted on 10/05/2017 8:10:16 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: blabs

And your theory is also a possibility.


13 posted on 10/05/2017 8:11:52 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: bkopto

“....what malfeasance are they hiding from us?”.......

Unfortunately, more than we will ever know. I don’t trust any one of them.


14 posted on 10/05/2017 8:13:09 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: blabs

We were talking about the gun-runner hypothesis last night. Someone had speculated this was a gun deal gone bad. My thought was, if you were transferring an arsenal of high powered weapons and ammunition, would you do it from a 32nd floor hotel room? Requiring carrying all that stuff upstairs and then carrying it all back down? I think we can cross that theory off the list.


15 posted on 10/05/2017 8:14:14 AM PDT by ponygirl (An Appeal to Heaven)
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To: Drew68

Other than the regulars at a casino in Mesquite remember him being a rather ‘course’ individual that seemed to be a libtard. Now, combine someone who for some reason went on the weapons buying spree in October 2016 and subsequently mixing Valium with booze, what could possibly go wrong?

Then if you see the picture with his cranial cavity ventilated, a straight on shot of his neck showed not a hint of the tattoo.


16 posted on 10/05/2017 8:15:55 AM PDT by mazda77
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Then if you see the picture with his cranial cavity ventilated, a straight on shot of his neck showed not a hint of the tattoo.

I've never thought the tattoo was nothing more than a shadow of his adam's apple but there are still people here who believe it is a tattoo and significant of something and that the photos showing no tattoo have been doctored.

It's still my opinion that guys who want to keep a low profile don't get memorable neck tattoos, and don't march in public wearing pussies on their heads.

17 posted on 10/05/2017 8:20:13 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: blabs

Its all speculation, but we can say for certainty he did not “go postal.”

It was not a moment of insanity or anger.

The dry runs, the huge collection of weapons, booking the proper hotel rooms, the bizarre money transfers all indicate long-term planning.


18 posted on 10/05/2017 8:24:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: blabs

Why would “it” move out of the area? What if you wanted to move a very large dirty bomb into Vegas?


19 posted on 10/05/2017 8:25:51 AM PDT by exnavy (long live the .45 colt, the original handgun cartridge.)
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To: Drew68

10-4. Too much emotional forensics going on everywhere, including sadly here on FR with so many experts wanting to be the next person who nails the next Dan Rather memo.

I choose to just sit back and observe, take a lot of things into consideration and mix them with a healthy mix of logic along with first hand accounts. Then wait for the “official” reports to be submitted. Then pick it apart if it smells like fresh mushrooms. Don’t make disparaging conflations but ask specific questions leaving emotion out of it.


20 posted on 10/05/2017 8:27:40 AM PDT by mazda77
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