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1 posted on 09/15/2017 8:43:16 AM PDT by V K Lee
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At this point I do not believe President Trump will grant amnesty to illegal aliens and "dreamers", that it is not a done deal. This was his main appeal, the reason so many of us contributed to him. He would go into history as a conman and fraud if he grants amnesty, and I would take it as a betrayal.

Already I have anti-Trump "conservatives" and liberals say to me, "I told you so." Ughh!

60 posted on 09/15/2017 10:07:40 AM PDT by apocalypto
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I will not believe a damn thing about the Wall will be built until I see a completed section of new Wall on the Mexican border where no wall exits now. Fixing old sections of existing wall does not work for me.


64 posted on 09/15/2017 10:09:51 AM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Every time you vote for a democrat, you put another nail in the coffin of the USA.....)
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Mr. President, Stay the course, making God your Compass. To compromise God's principles is to deny His majesty and authority.

What part of the "Lord being in charge of everything" even their next breath does Congress not understand?

65 posted on 09/15/2017 10:10:42 AM PDT by Maudeen (This world is not my home.)
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"...did not cave..."

Well he has caved before (healthcare, debt, Iran, Syria,etc). But that's not the point. The uproar is not because he caved, past tense, on DACA fiction. It is because he is caving before our eyes, in terms of his rhetoric. He is infected with progressive-ism and we hope to show him the error of his drifting ways.

I don't blame folks for having a heart, I just wish some on our side would see the Wizard about the straw in their heads. Momentum in the direction of constitutional decay is always driven by the heart.

The number of seemingly always sleeping dreamers is NOT the issue. And it matters not whether we consider them lawbreaker juniors or we consider them child abuse victims of lawbreaking parents.

Irrational 'progress' is the fruit of the heart and the life blood of progressives. And is the enemy of Reason. The blindfold Lady Justice wears is not just the latest in eclipse-wear. It separates objective law and reason from subjective prejudice of the heart.

Whether dragged here under the wire by parents who are duds or washed here by hurricanes and the torrent of ensuing floods, the fact is that the increasingly aged DACA demographic's continued presence is in violation of the law.

ANY progress of status in the direction of citizenship or legal standing is unquestionably a reward for lawbreaking. Again, regardless WHO you think broke the law. And it is settled social science that such reward motivates more of the behavior.

Anyone who really cares about the bulk of the Mexican population would quit trying to rob them of the dreamer generation which maybe would rise up and fix their own problems and help their own population.

And, yes, I am willing to help financially. I just prefer it be in the form of arming and training the X-treme Dream Team for their triumphant return to the home scene. Dreamers vastly outnumber cartel members, they just need to wake up and sight in. If nothing else, they would leave here qualified for jobs securing Mexico's southern border.

Trump can call it the Piece Corp. Ask not what your neighboring country can do for you, ask what you can do for your own dang excuse for a country!

That specifically might sound a bit unrealistic to some. But any serious long-term vision to help the already victimized dreamers and to vastly scale up the apparent dream factory that is Mexico, is to train these people for going home and making a real difference in their world. Not in establishing foreign comforts zones for some new species of quasi-citizens as reward for abandoning their extended national family.

Call me a romantic, but I think the ship of Mexico is savable. If we stop encouraging everyone capable of it to jump.

Anyway, is it just me or is the size of a politician's heart always measured by the depth of my wallet?

77 posted on 09/15/2017 10:22:26 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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I live on the border, deal with the issues every day. I am willing to see this play out.

I did not get excited when the word was out about all this because well it is Pelosi, and Schumer, and the media. They do all lie, and more often lies than they have any truth.

I also want to remind everyone, just because the media is not reporting something that doesn’t mean it is not happening.


87 posted on 09/15/2017 10:37:26 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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No way should anybody who was brought here illegally, no matter what their age, be allowed to stay.

To allow them to stay is amnesty. It is wrong.

110 posted on 09/15/2017 3:14:44 PM PDT by apocalypto
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