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Oregon Governor Signs Gun Confiscation Law, Violates 2nd and 14th Amendments
World News Politics ^ | 8/23/2017 | M.L.

Posted on 08/26/2017 2:56:33 PM PDT by Beave Meister

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To: DugwayDuke
It only applies to those considered a risk to themselves or others. Only law enforcement officials, not all government officials, and family members can ask for the removal of the firearms. Only after a court hearing does the individual have to give up his guns.

The NRA has a different opinion than yours and they have read the bill. As an NRA member, I support their judgment.

"By allowing a law enforcement officer, family member, or household member to seek the ERPO, SB 719A would allow people who are not mental health professionals, who may be mistaken, and who may only have minimal contact with the respondent to file a petition with the court and testify on the respondent’s state of mind. This ex parte order, which strips the accused of their Second Amendment rights, would be issued by a judge based on the brief statement of the petitioner. The accused would not be afforded the chance to appear in court to defend themselves against the allegations when the ERPO is issued. These orders may be issued without any allegations of criminal behavior."

In Oregon, people who pose a danger to themselves or others may be dealt with in a number of ways, depending on the circumstances. Under current law, every punitive measure which leads to a prohibition on firearm possession requires some type of judicial process, so people are not arbitrarily deprived of their liberty or their rights. SB 719A is unnecessary and goes far beyond existing law.

21 posted on 08/26/2017 3:49:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: pharmacopeia

Expect what you are receiving.

First and Foremost is “The right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed”.

This is the bedrock because this is the only amendment until recently that the left wants removed. They have since moved up to #1.

No authority can remove your right to own a gun. Courts can remove that right through felony convictions.

That slippery slope starts with all the mumbo jumbo that puts grandma in a group home.


22 posted on 08/26/2017 3:50:25 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Beave Meister

This is hugh and series.


23 posted on 08/26/2017 3:57:24 PM PDT by Ackackadack
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To: pharmacopeia
then why aren't they IC'd?
24 posted on 08/26/2017 3:58:08 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: mabarker1
stand up and be counted or line up and be numbered
25 posted on 08/26/2017 4:00:08 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: pharmacopeia

Please note they’re trying to get psychiatrists to pronounce Trump as mentally incompetent so he can be removed under the 22nd amendment.

have you seen what counts as a psychiatrist these days in colleges?

All it takes is one socialist doctor to say you’re a bad man and your gun rights are revoked.

Come out against “same and rational government policies towards immigration” and lose your guns.
Protest against gay marriage and lose your guns.

This is guilty until proven innocent and it’s unconstitutional.


26 posted on 08/26/2017 4:01:30 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: pharmacopeia

Is it harder to zot in a membership drive?


27 posted on 08/26/2017 4:01:36 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (This time I am Deplorable)
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To: Chode

“stand up and be counted or line up and be numbered “

Yup...this is where the left wants to go with all this.

The 2nd amend, when you absolutely refuse to get in their cattle cars. The left has never lost their fascination with ‘mass transit’


28 posted on 08/26/2017 4:05:40 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: kabar

This could be another tool that is used in divorce cases and who gets custody of the children.


29 posted on 08/26/2017 4:05:54 PM PDT by teacherwoes (Indoctrination is often done under the shadow of a gun)
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To: Beave Meister
Unconstitutional

It is, but Oregon is under the jurisdiction of the Ninth Circuit.

30 posted on 08/26/2017 4:11:36 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: TXnMA

Guaranteed they are moving toward it.


31 posted on 08/26/2017 4:14:50 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: pharmacopeia
The law only applies to individuals deemed an imminent danger either to themselves or to others; evidence is required for a judge to make the ruling, which can be appealed.
Please note imminent harm to self or others. The same standard as having someone involuntarily committed.

Which is almost excusable, if it were true. However, if you look at the news this very week, with half of the nation trying to label the President as "mentally compromised", you can quickly see that a Leftist judge can always be found to suddenly "find" that any Freeper who criticizes the next Saint Obama must clearly be mentally unstable and thus an "imminent danger". They already label every right-wing group and and rally and webpage as Nazi and dangerous and violent. Do you really not get that?

32 posted on 08/26/2017 4:19:48 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: DugwayDuke

Nevertheless, the potential for partisan abuse of this law is tremendous.

For the record, I have zero faith in LE or the courts to act in my best interests. IMO they have in many, many places become little more than partisan political organizations.

Odds that I’d find a non activist court in Oregon are probably rather poor.


33 posted on 08/26/2017 4:20:10 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: pharmacopeia

(Freeper profile is less than 7 weeks old. Hmmm)


34 posted on 08/26/2017 4:20:54 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

You’d be hard pressed to find a ‘judge’ in Oregon not wearing a p-—y hat or not a member of the resistance.


35 posted on 08/26/2017 4:31:05 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America. Treat them accordingly.)
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To: DugwayDuke

What kabar said in post #21...


36 posted on 08/26/2017 4:32:26 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Leave the gun. Take the cannoli....)
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To: pharmacopeia
Yes, you have interpreted this law correctly.

It still is tyranny at it's worst.

37 posted on 08/26/2017 4:33:49 PM PDT by PROCON (#MAGA!)
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To: TXnMA; pharmacopeia

I was on to this newbie troll about a month ago. I told him then that his time was limited. Glad to see I’ll be right.


38 posted on 08/26/2017 4:43:21 PM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: pharmacopeia

The law is an attempt to avoid proper neurological and mental evaluations in favor of using accusations from hens and police instead. Radical social activists (e.g., feminists) have given propaganda presentations to police departments and academies.

Such policies keep families scattered and less able to rise as new and productive business competition. The same policies send many more cases to lawyers.


39 posted on 08/26/2017 4:46:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Beave Meister

Does anybody proofread their excerpts for duplications any more?

Does anybody proofread their excerpts for duplications any more?


40 posted on 08/26/2017 4:58:15 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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