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It’s too late for my son, but the end of the campaign for ‘normal birth’ is welcome
UKGuardian online ^ | 8/14/17 | James Titcombe

Posted on 08/17/2017 7:56:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye

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To: originalbuckeye; Tax-chick

This is the way I see things (and possibly it makes me a Libertarian)

The government should not step in and interfere with a God-given right and process. If you want to give birth in a Hospital then it is your right. I chose not to, and I chose to give birth at home. It should be my right to do what comes naturally without government intervention. I understood full well that I or my child could die, and in fact could also die in a hospital. Such is life and death.

Doctor/hospital mistakes are the third leading cause of death in the USA - just behind cancer and heart disease. You can take your chances with medical intervention - I’ll take mine with God and his plan. I do it every day, in every way.


21 posted on 08/17/2017 2:10:47 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: Tax-chick

Sorry. You’re right, this particular article doesn’t refer to home birth. There are several articles in the last few days from Britain and some do refer to home births and midwives advocating for that. My experience was that friends had tried to recommend home birth and I was really glad I didn’t go that route. My son wouldn’t have survived and I might not have either. Most of the articles do point out that midwives will advocate for ‘normal/natural/home’ births, but things haven’t worked out that well if they ignore the need for medical intervention.


22 posted on 08/17/2017 2:13:21 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: colorcountry

I’m glad it worked out well for you.


23 posted on 08/17/2017 2:15:02 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: originalbuckeye

Life sometimes works well - sometimes it doesn’t. I had bad experiences three times with birth at a hospital under a doctor’s care.

I gave birth twice at home after that. I simply hate the idea of big nanny-state government telling us what we “must” do.


24 posted on 08/17/2017 2:28:26 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: silverleaf

Terceira Island is 19 miles by 12 miles, a lot smaller than Oahu, with patients there from the whole Pacific Rim. It is sad to think that your personal experience could be what single-payer socialized medicine would plague us with.


25 posted on 08/17/2017 2:41:10 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: originalbuckeye; colorcountry

I considered home birth with my 6th ... well, my friend’s basement ... because it was such a nuisance figuring out what to do with my five other children, and I considered having my 7th on the lawn at the Fire Department. However, in both cases, I managed to make it to the hospital after squaring away all the siblings. I’ve known people who had successful home births and people who had bad outcomes, but the same is true with hospital births, so I’m neutral.

I think the real issue in this case is that the midwives have some sort of ideology going on that is unrelated to patient health. It’s worth noting that midwives’ organizations tend to be stridently pro-abortion.


26 posted on 08/17/2017 2:47:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't read all day if you don't start early in the morning.)
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Never let a tragedy go to waste.

Not when you can twist it to support getting more control over other people.

27 posted on 08/17/2017 2:49:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: Tax-chick
It’s worth noting that midwives’ organizations tend to be stridently pro-abortion.

You're probably right. Most of the Midwives are a bit ...well...crunchy and progressive.

In Utah we have a Midwives with a more traditional view about the importance of life. I guess I've been fortunate. I did my homebirths back in the early 1980's. The direction of the country has changed a great deal since then.

28 posted on 08/17/2017 2:58:05 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: colorcountry

I’m sure there are midwives everywhere who are competent and caring. It’s sort of like teachers: the organizations which “represent” them are hard-left, while most teachers are not.

I think people should be able to make the choices they think will work out best for them.


29 posted on 08/17/2017 3:17:43 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't read all day if you don't start early in the morning.)
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