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June 1857
Harper's Magazine archives (subscription required) ^ | June 1857 | Harper's

Posted on 06/01/2017 5:15:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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KEYWORDS: civilwar
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed. To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

Link to May 1857 thread

1 posted on 06/01/2017 5:15:26 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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I thought about posting the whole lead article about Charleston due to the future importance of that city but it was 22 pages and it will be a few years before events come to a head in Charleston Harbor.

The Bird That Sung In May (poetry) – 2
Yellow Fever – 2-11
Monthly Record of Current Events * – 12-14
Editor’s Drawer – 15-21
Inconveniences of Living in a uniform Row of Houses – 22-23
Fashions for June – 24-25

* The U.S. government has decided to stay out of the Chinese war. A complicated story from Central America involves the Republic of New Granada , a country hitherto unknown to me.

“Serious disturbances are threatened in Utah, where the disaffection to the Government has assumed a very marked character.”

“The new United States steamer Niagara, the largest man-of-war afloat, has been ordered to assist in laying the cable of the oceanic submarine telegraph.

The New York, Ohio, Maine, and Massachusetts state legislatures passed strong anti-slavery resolutions in response to the Dred Scott decision.

Among the international events reported, the British Parliament is debating war in China.

2 posted on 06/01/2017 5:17:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from May 30 (reply #58).

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The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

3 posted on 06/01/2017 5:21:04 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

This is really old news.....................


4 posted on 06/01/2017 6:32:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (You can't assimilate one whose entire reason for being here is to not assimilate in the first place.)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

My crystal ball tells me that in a couple of years a presently rather unknown politician from Illinois will give an important speech at Cooper Union.


5 posted on 06/01/2017 11:38:57 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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My crystal ball tells me that later this month a presently rather unknown politician from Illinois will give a slightly less important - but significant nonetheless - speech at Springfield, IL.


6 posted on 06/01/2017 11:46:11 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“People at this day undervalue what they don’t pay for,” remarks Mr. Strong, apropos of “free college.”

Things are different today, of course. Bernie Sanders knows that young people today will highly value free college, such that they will vote for socialist political candidates for the rest of their lives.


7 posted on 06/03/2017 3:05:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is no catastrophe from which someone does not benefit." ~Theodore Dalrymple)
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I know a boy named Peter Cooper. His mother is in my prayer group.


8 posted on 06/03/2017 3:06:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("There is no catastrophe from which someone does not benefit." ~Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; All

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_telegraph_cable

A transatlantic telegraph cable is an undersea cable running under the Atlantic Ocean used for telegraph communications. The first was laid across the floor of the Atlantic from Telegraph Field, Foilhommerum Bay, Valentia Island in western Ireland to Heart’s Content in eastern Newfoundland. The first communications occurred August 16, 1858, reducing the communication time between North America and Europe from ten days – the time it took to deliver a message by ship – to a much shorter time. Transatlantic telegraph cables have been replaced by transatlantic telecommunications cables.

The first attempt, in 1857, was a failure. The cable-laying vessels were the converted warships HMS Agamemnon and USS Niagara. The cable was started at the white strand near Ballycarbery Castle in County Kerry, on the southwest coast of Ireland, on August 5, 1857.[7] The cable broke on the first day, but was grappled and repaired; it broke again over the “telegraph plateau”, nearly 3,200 m (2 statute miles) deep, and the operation was abandoned for the year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Niagara_(1855)

Transatlantic telegraph cable, 1857—1858
Niagara sailed from New York on 22 April 1857 for England, arriving Gravesend on 14 May. A log of the ship’s voyage across the Atlantic[1] was kept by the correspondent of the New York Daily Times, where it was published on Thursday, 14 May 1857. On arrival in England Niagara was equipped to lay cable for the first transatlantic telegraph, which was to follow the shallow tableland discovered between Newfoundland and Ireland by Matthew F. Maury. By 11 August, when a break in the cable defied recovery, she had laid several hundred miles westward from Valentia Island, Ireland. She returned to New York 20 November and decommissioned 2 December to prepare for a second essay at cable-laying. Recommissioning 24 February 1858, Captain William L. Hudson in command, she sailed 8 March, arrived Plymouth, England, 28 March, and experimented with HMS Agamemnon. The ships returned to Plymouth to fit out, then made a mid-ocean rendezvous on 29 July, spliced their cable ends, and each sailed toward her own continent. On 5 August, Niagara’s boats carried the end of the cable ashore at Brills Mouth Island, Newfoundland, and the same day Agamemnon landed her end of the cable. The first message flashed across 16 August, when Queen Victoria sent a cable to President James Buchanan. This first cable operated for three weeks; ultimate success came in 1866.


9 posted on 06/03/2017 3:13:35 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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Continued from March 10 (reply #40).

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Nicole Etcheson, Bleeding Kansas: Contested Liberty in the Civil War Era

Robert J. Walker Wikipedia page

10 posted on 06/06/2017 4:52:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from June 1 (reply #3).

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The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

11 posted on 06/08/2017 4:51:54 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I wish I could get Mr. Strong to run my church Stewardship Committee! Our meeting last night went on for two hours, and went I went back to look for my phone (which I’d actually left at home), several members were still there wrangling about budget issues over which none of us has any influence worth mentioning. The Finance Committee knows we won’t cease to volunteer or switch parishes, after all.

There is nothing new under the sun.


12 posted on 06/08/2017 5:11:42 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("If you think free speech is assault but assault is free speech, you're a moron.")
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Life seems to be moving along rather normally; so far, 1857 is fairly calm after the election, Bloody Kansas, and the Dred Scott decision.


13 posted on 06/08/2017 12:52:26 PM PDT by henkster (Orwell, Rand and Huxley would not be proud of our society, but they'd have no trouble recognizing it)
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I don’t see much happening until summer a year from now, give or take a financial panic. At that point an Illinois politician and an Illinois politician wannabe will attempt to raise their national profiles in a series of debates that will keep readers of these threads busy for a few months.


14 posted on 06/08/2017 4:09:39 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Continued from May 13 (reply #38).

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Don E. Fehrenbacher, The Dred Scott Case: Its Significance in American Law and Politics" (1978)

15 posted on 06/11/2017 5:56:27 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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[Continued from June 8 (reply #11).]

June 11. At Columbia College from ten to twelve as Haight’s substitute on the committee to attend examination. Heard McVickar’s examination of Seniors in political economy and evidences. (Mack is the evidences of revealed religion.) Very creditable, though I suppose the best scholars were called up while the inspectors were present.

The Diary of George Templeton Strong, Edited by Allan Nevins and Milton Halsey Thomas

16 posted on 06/11/2017 5:58:50 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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You’ll need to put this in your library for later use. Notice that one of the authors is our Larry Schweikart.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2123394?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

The Panic of 1857: Origins, Transmission, and Containment
Charles W. Calomiris and Larry Schweikart
The Journal of Economic History
Vol. 51, No. 4 (Dec., 1991), pp. 807-834


17 posted on 06/11/2017 6:08:37 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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The financial troubles first appear in George Strong’s diary at the end of August, but really get rolling in September.


18 posted on 06/11/2017 6:12:51 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Another 1857 event ongoing at this time was the Sepoy Mutiny in India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Rebellion_of_1857


19 posted on 06/11/2017 6:26:04 PM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: abb

That I have been expecting to see in the Harper’s international current events but not so far. Only the trouble in China being encountered by the European powers.


20 posted on 06/11/2017 7:24:54 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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