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Italy's top court rules Sikhs can't carry religious knives
TheLocal.it ^ | 16 May 2017 11:11 CEST+02:00

Posted on 05/19/2017 8:59:47 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Italy’s Court of Cassation ruled on Monday that a Sikh man was not allowed to carry a knife considered sacred by his religion in public.

Migrants have a duty to conform to local values in the society they choose to move to, the court said, even if those values are different from in their home country.

The kirpan, a small knife or sword, is one of five religious articles many Sikhs carry with them at all times.

But the legality of carrying the curved knife in public has been debated in several countries where Sikhs are a minority.

Denmark became the world’s first country to explicitly ban them in 2006, while bans in Belgium and the United Kingdom have been overturned due to the knife’s status as a religious symbol. …

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TOPICS: Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: eussr; italy; kirpan; rkba; sanity; sikhism; sikhs
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1 posted on 05/19/2017 8:59:48 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Give me a Sikh, anytime.

Somali Muslim, not so much.


2 posted on 05/19/2017 9:06:18 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

>The kirpan, a small knife or sword, is one of five religious articles many Sikhs carry with them at all times.

Oh well.

Let’s first examine two statements...
1. I believe this.
2. I believe that.

Belief will be believed when those believing have a consensus and force it on those that don’t believe in it.

Science is the only answer to intelligent existence and those that don’t understand science need to park it.

I believe I need a dozen hand grenades, a seal team fully loaded with air support when dealing with filth but I get by without it.


3 posted on 05/19/2017 9:11:21 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Olog-hai

>Migrants have a duty to conform to local values in the society they choose to move to, the court said, even if those values are different from in their home country.

migrants need to STFU and STFD until they integrate.


4 posted on 05/19/2017 9:13:38 PM PDT by soycd
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But are Muslims allowed to carry their ritual beheading machetes?


5 posted on 05/19/2017 9:19:04 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Olog-hai

In Americat we would probably make him get a CCW and substitute a Glock under his turban.


6 posted on 05/19/2017 9:25:04 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Here in NorCal the Sikhs are farmers, truckers, and,
of course, store keepers....great capitalists and
anti-muzzie too! I like ‘em.


7 posted on 05/19/2017 9:29:53 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: soycd

These are just knives. And we do believe in the right to keep and bear arms for all, but not to abuse that right—the point of that right is to vanquish terrorists and terrorism at the level of the ordinary citizen. Should we go after people just for carrying a hunting knife in public?

What Italy is doing is using the Muslim excuse to crack down on non-Muslims. Just like when they go after shechita slaughter and male circumcision.


8 posted on 05/19/2017 9:30:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Sivad

We were visiting relatives in NJ. The local gas station is run and owned by Sikhs. The older guy carries his curved knife on a sash thing. The younger cousin thinks he is “scary”. I tried to explain it to her - but....

I had to admit - he wasn’t talkative or very friendly.


9 posted on 05/19/2017 9:34:52 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: Olog-hai
Image result for walther ppk 9mm pistol image This is the badge or religious symbol of my Agnosticism.
10 posted on 05/19/2017 9:44:03 PM PDT by Holdem Or Foldem (If it is settled it isn't science. :))
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To: Olog-hai

>Should we go after people just for carrying a hunting knife in public?

No. And I don’t care if you carry it for “religious” reasons or not. Religion is personal but so is defending yourself.

I won’t judge. If you follow islam I will judge you as retarded.


11 posted on 05/19/2017 9:53:19 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

Note that the followers of Islam are most active in terrorism where RKBA is suppressed by the left.


12 posted on 05/19/2017 9:55:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>Note that the followers of Islam are most active in terrorism where RKBA is suppressed by the left.

Oh yes. I also note that to follow islam requires one to be retarded, stupid and evil.


13 posted on 05/19/2017 10:03:33 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

Especially when one is not brought up in Islam and converts.


14 posted on 05/19/2017 10:04:35 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>Especially when one is not brought up in Islam and converts.

To even think that raping, killing and torturing other humans like islams think is okay, if just plain, effing retarded.

If you follow islam you need deprogrammed or eliminated. Period.


15 posted on 05/19/2017 10:13:25 PM PDT by soycd
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Towards the end of the Obama administration the U.S. Army made it okay for them to wear a beard and a rag on their head instead of the uniform requirements for everyone else. I would not be surprised if those Obama Generals try and change it so they can carry the knife as well. The dems have so screwed up the military by treating it as a social experiment that I fear we could not win any long drawn out conflict or war that would require military unit cohesion. As a retired Vietnam vet I would have a hard time telling the enemy apart from fellow soldiers on the battlefield and even if I did I would not want to trust my life to someone who I know belongs to a cult which looks at me as an infidel who must be killed, nor would I trust a female soldier to be able to fireman carry me to safety if wounded in battle. The dems have looked at military only in regards to try and win votes, not to win a war againt an enemy.


16 posted on 05/19/2017 10:53:26 PM PDT by TonyM
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To: Sivad

In Seattle, a log of Sikhs drive cabs. Very polite guys. I was stuck on a corner far from a cab stand one day, and the driver, noticing my distress, came to the curb and picked me up...drove me several blocks to my doctor’s office and REFUSED to take payment. I’m a woman, was in distress...very chivalrous cab driver, not like the woman-hating muzzles we read about every day.

And I gave him an appropriate amount of cash anyway.


17 posted on 05/19/2017 10:58:40 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: 21twelve

The Sikh who owns the rural ‘Stop n Rob’ a couple of
miles from my home makes a point of knowing all of
his regular customers by name and those customers are
spread all over the countryside. He has introduced me
to several people I would have never met otherwise. But
like any group there is bound to be a downer or two.


18 posted on 05/20/2017 12:28:39 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Olog-hai
Wait.

So I can have religiously designated weapons that are protected under the 1st as well as the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution?


19 posted on 05/20/2017 5:50:32 AM PDT by Delta 21
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To: Veto!

Sikhs are generally good people. They should NEVER be confused with muslimes, who are goat-humping barbarian knuckle-draggers.


20 posted on 05/20/2017 6:20:01 AM PDT by IronJack
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