Posted on 05/05/2017 11:09:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Until Teslas at least come close to those characteristics I'm not interested.Not even slightly.Not at *any* price!
anybody buying this ....hype?
panasonic, apparently.
A couple of months ago, I drove by the downtown of my old home town just for nostalgia. Near the abandoned Piggly Wiggly I noticed several posts. Upon closer examination they were Tesla charging stations.
I was more than a little bit surprised as DeFuniak Springs is only around 5000 population.
Probably is about the right distance from other stations.
fyi
Well more power (no pun intended) to him if he can pull it off with no government subsidies.
Elon Musk has pocketed hundreds of millions of tax dollars. In return he has produced a few thousand coal burning Teslas.
And every so often Musk says something really shiny and cool that people swoon over. Look... flying cars! Look... reusable rockets! Look... Mars!
Ooh. Ahhh.
And... nothing.
Yes. But for the battery packs, electric cars with their dramatically fewer moving parts are cheaper to make and maintain the internal combustion. Make batteries cheaper, electric cars rule.
Central generation of electricity distributed by grid to vehicle charging points or home/office heating systems is hugely more efficient than distribution of gasoline or diesel to gas stations or heating oil or natural gas to home/office furnaces — with batteries increasing the resilience and decreasing load volatility of charging points and home systems.
Robust batteries dramatically increase the extent to which rooftop and parking lot solar arrays can enable grid independence and increase the effective return upon rooftop solar investments.
the oil companies are believers in the electric car.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-25/electric-car-boom-seen-triggering-peak-oil-demand-in-2030s
An electric car would work for almost all of my driving needs. Would definitely consider at the right price point.
I certainly don’t buy the idea that “fossil” fuels like petroleum are not “sustainable” sources of energy. IMO nothing even comes close to it at this time.
“I certainly don’t buy the idea that “fossil” fuels like petroleum are not “sustainable” sources of energy.”
And the latest research indicates that petroleum is naturally produced by the planet due to mantle/crust interactions. It sure as heck ain’t dead dinosaurs.
Next thing you'll be claiming you've never lapped at a Busch!
Almost forgot the coupe de grass!
“Robust batteries dramatically increase the extent to which rooftop and parking lot solar arrays can enable grid independence and increase the effective return upon rooftop solar investments.”
Until the gear wears out. A lot of folks around here have solar systems on their house that they can’t GIVE away. No one wants them. Since they stopped the subsidy payments they are useless but no one wants to buy a house with the junk on their. Many people still owe money on the systems.
I live in a state with more sun than almost any other and they STILL couldn’t make solar pay, long term. Batteries don’t last forever. They don’t even last as long as an internal combustion engine with regular oil changes.
Not yet. They have been saying that will happen since the 1800s. Yeah that is right. Some of the earliest automobiles cars were electric. They tried everything back then. It still came down to more bang for your buck in a gallon of gas than in a similar weight of battery.
“Make batteries cheaper, electric cars rule.”
You might as well say ‘but for the motor cars are cheep’. It completely false (most of the car cost is in other parts that electric cars also have) but lets pretend it is true for a moment.
It does not matter how many ‘giga’ or ‘mega’ or ‘uber’ you put in front of the word factory, batteries aren’t going to suddenly be free. Even if you halve the cost of those massive batteries they still aren’t remotely ‘cheap’.
Know why portable power tools are cheap and come in combo packs? Because the companies know you will have to buy their batteries and chargers for years to come. A good gas car can go hundreds of thousands of miles without replacing a major thing like the whole engine, which is what a complete battery pack swap would be like for an electric vehicle.
“Central generation of electricity distributed by grid to vehicle charging points or home/office heating systems is hugely more efficient than distribution of gasoline or diesel to gas stations or heating oil or natural gas to home/office furnaces “
Look up ‘pipeline’ sometime. The concept might surprise you.
Not since I discovered decent beers ... about 40 years ago. LOL
I wouldn't deny that dinosaurs would make for great BBQs.
And pretty exciting hunting if you're into that sort of thing. ;-)
They just keep finding more and more deposits of petroleum and natgas. Gigantic deposits.
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