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SOCOM Looks to Ditch 7.62 NATO For Better Long Range Performance
Bearing Arms ^ | 19 Apr, 2017 | Bob Owens

Posted on 04/19/2017 5:08:10 PM PDT by MtnClimber

SOCOM has seen the light, and is finally looking to drop the 7.62 NATO in favor of a lighter and better-performing rifle in a 6.5 short-action caliber. Special Operations Command is exploring a new caliber for its semi-automatic sniper rifle needs and upgrading one of its bolt-action sniper rifle systems.

Maj. Aron Hauquitz told Military Times Tuesday that SOCOM is in the preliminary stages of exploring a sniper rifle chambered in the 6.5 mm caliber. The two commercially available rounds being evaluated are the .260 Remington and the 6.5 mm Creedmoor.

Research shows that both rounds will “stay supersonic longer, have less wind drift and better terminal performance than 7.62 mm ammunition,” SOCOM officials said.......

Is anyone seeing signs of a clear trend here? The Army is already looking to bring back battle rifles and widely distribute them among the troops, at the same time they’re replacing their semi-automatic sniper rifles with a HK descendent of the AR-10 that isn’t really a sniper rifle.

(Excerpt) Read more at bearingarms.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: appleseed; banglist; poodleshooter; sniper
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1 posted on 04/19/2017 5:08:10 PM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

I would pick 6.5 Creedmore.


2 posted on 04/19/2017 5:08:44 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Same.


3 posted on 04/19/2017 5:10:41 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: MtnClimber

C’mon Creedmore! let’s bring that price down


4 posted on 04/19/2017 5:11:48 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: MtnClimber

How about a Swiss K-31? They already come in 6.5mm, and you can get ‘em cheap.

CC


5 posted on 04/19/2017 5:13:58 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: NativeSon

With that cool factor they don’t have to bring the price down.


6 posted on 04/19/2017 5:14:23 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: MtnClimber

ARMA 3, which came out several years ago but is set in the 2030s, predicted NATO would move to the 6.5.


7 posted on 04/19/2017 5:15:18 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: MtnClimber

6mm-6.5mm does seem to be really popular with long range shooters. The Swedish Mauser round would be great but it’s case is probably a little large.

The one thing the old Swede has on most others is the ability to handle long heavy for caliber bullets.


8 posted on 04/19/2017 5:15:27 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I have an old Swedish M41b sniper rifle.It’s in 6.5x55 and it’s very effective at long ange.The Swedes made the right caliber decision back in 1894.


9 posted on 04/19/2017 5:16:55 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Sorry, the K-31 came in 7.5mm, disregard the previous.

CC


10 posted on 04/19/2017 5:17:26 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: Farmer Dean

ange=range.My arthritis is raging tonight.


11 posted on 04/19/2017 5:18:51 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I had a Schmidt-Rubin Swiss rifle in 7.5. It was a big, long, heavy rifle. On the plus side it was beautifully made and a really good shooter.

The straight pull was also decent. Ammo a bit hard to find.


12 posted on 04/19/2017 5:22:05 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: NativeSon

If they pick Creedmore, I will get one, as I also want the price per round to be lower. As of today, I already have too many different caliber to support/reload. So I will stick to the cheaper .308 Win/7.62 NATO for the time being.

When I want to go longer and .308 is not up to the task, for now I ‘settle’ for 300 WinMag or .338 Lapua. :)


13 posted on 04/19/2017 5:25:09 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: MtnClimber

Even the 6.5 Grendel has better ballistics than the 7.62x51, in the lighter AR-15 type package. Stays supersonic further out.


14 posted on 04/19/2017 5:25:12 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: MtnClimber; markomalley; DYngbld; TADSLOS; xsrdx; big'ol_freeper; Mark17; mikefive; JDoutrider; ...

Active Duty ping.


15 posted on 04/19/2017 5:27:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Carthego delenda est

They need a rifle with a fast enough twist rate to stabilize longer bullets that have a better Sectional Density and Ballistic Coefficient.


16 posted on 04/19/2017 5:28:30 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Personally, I like the Winchester .270. It shoots incredibly flat and still has the punch to take down an elk.


17 posted on 04/19/2017 5:30:30 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: MtnClimber

6.5 mm is a sweet spot in the small calibers as far as I’m concerned. The Swedes knew what they were doing with the 6.5 x 55 many years ago (1891?). Newer shorter cartridges with less taper and sharper shoulders just make that even better.

I think we could do with a shortie 6.5 mm for general purpose, then move on up to a .338 Lapua for the heavy lifting. We already have 50 cal covered, though there are some intermediate rounds that are excellent as far as accuracy.


18 posted on 04/19/2017 5:33:31 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Revolutionary

My very first rifle was a Remington 700 in 270 Win. I still have it and after more than 30 years it still drives tacks.


19 posted on 04/19/2017 5:33:44 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: yarddog

Those Swiss straight-pull rifles have always amazed me with the level of quality evident in their manufacture. I’ve often wondered how they would’ve held up to the sort of combat that the Mosin-Nagant, Mauser and Enfield experienced.


20 posted on 04/19/2017 5:34:04 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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