Posted on 04/06/2017 7:09:40 AM PDT by ZULU
[1] I. Quo usque tandem abutere, Catilina, patientia nostra? quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit audacia? Nihilne te nocturnum praesidium Palati, nihil urbis vigiliae, nihil timor populi, nihil concursus bonorum omnium, nihil hic munitissimus habendi senatus locus, nihil horum ora voltusque moverunt? Patere tua consilia non sentis, constrictam iam horum omnium scientia teneri coniurationem tuam non vides? Quid proxima, quid superiore nocte egeris, ubi fueris, quos convocaveris, quid consilii ceperis, quem nostrum ignorare arbitraris? [2] O tempora, o mores! Senatus haec intellegit. Consul videt; hic tamen vivit. Vivit? immo vero etiam in senatum venit, fit publici consilii particeps, notat et designat oculis ad caedem unum quemque nostrum. Nos autem fortes viri satis facere rei publicae videmur, si istius furorem ac tela vitemus. Ad mortem te, Catilina, duci iussu consulis iam pridem oportebat, in te conferri pestem, quam tu in nos [omnes iam diu] machinaris.
Obama is the modern Cataline, the Progressives his followers.
Yur cute! How many posts are you gonna wait till you translate?
So, Cicero hated cats?...................
The link at the top has the translation:
. When, O Catiline, do you mean to cease abusing our patience? How long is that madness of yours still to mock us? When is there to be an end of that unbridled audacity of yours, swaggering about as it does now? Do not the nightly guards placed on the Palatine Hill—do not the watches posted throughout the city—does not the alarm of the people, and the union of all good men—does not the precaution taken of assembling the senate in this most defensible place—do not the looks and countenances of this venerable body here present, have any effect upon you? Do you not feel that your plans are detected? Do you not see that your conspiracy is already arrested and rendered powerless by the knowledge which every one here possesses of it? What is there that you did last night, what the night before— where is it that you were—who was there that you summoned to meet you—what design was there which was adopted by you, with which you think that any one of us is unacquainted? [2]
Cataline was a crass, pleasure loving, amoral privileged Roman who made common political cause with the poor and unducated to enhance his own wealth and power. Cicero understood that such people were a greater threat to the entire Roman nation and culture than all their foreign enemies combined. In modern day America, the appearances are different, but the characters and themes are the same.
Cataline was a radical revolutionary who led an insurrection against the Roman Republic. He was defeated in a war againt the Roman Republic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catiline
Give a history of the insurrectionary demagogue, all too sympathetic an account of this criminal here. Must have been written by a Communist.
Yup.
Was this the Gladiator Rebellion?.....................
One of my absolute favorites from Cicero. Used to be able to read it in the original, now my latin has sadly decayed to uselessness and trivia.
No. That was Spartacus.
It’s all Greek to me.
That was Kirk Douglas in the Odyssey.
:)
Ah, yes. I saw him on TV..................
Beats Brad Pitt.
I presented this oration for an oratory contest when I was in high school. Won the district finals as I recall.
That was Troy.....................
According to Virgil, the Romans were descended from Aeneas.
:)
Cataline was a crass, pleasure loving, amoral privileged Roman.
That would pretty much sum up the entire Roman Senate. Which of course bears a great resemblance to our Congress today.
Yes, I know. Weird that they would pick the losers, unless it was true........................
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