Russian and American troops are within 'hand-grenade range' of each other in Syria [tr]

UK Daily Mail ^ | March 29, 2017 | Kelly Mclaughlin

[bgill]

Hand-grenade range? What, we’re on opposing sides now? Who writes this crap?

[Squantos]

Agree with ya ..... I’m not wanting to police Syria ..... wanting to kill ISIS or any other state sponsored terrorist group. As I stated elsewhere in this thread.... Nation building sucks. Cancer analogy.... you can cut it out, treat it and monitor it but its still there in remission for life. But I can’t make you quit exposing yourself to carcinogens (evil) repeatedly ...... Thats my thought on evil within every nation on earth.

Stay Safe !

[thoughtomator]

Our military-industrial complex is on autopilot, creating its own wars to justify its existence.

As you can see from all the classified leaks, it’s not taking direction from Trump - it’s fighting that direction tooth and nail.

[AppyPappy]

“Our military-industrial complex is on autopilot, creating its own wars to justify its existence.”

Of course it is.

[thoughtomator]

> And it’s hard to argue that an authorization to use force passed by both Houses actually removes power from Congress and gives too much to the Executive in the absence of such restrictions.

It’s very easy to argue, when said AUMF is both permanent, and slippery enough to be applied anywhere for any reason. De facto, it is a surrender of the power to declare war.

We were not previously in a state of war with Syria as a result of AUMF.

Now, suddenly we are - without a declaration by Congress. If you recall, an attempt to secure such a declaration by the Obama administration was rejected by a national public outcry against it.

So we have an AUMF which previously did not authorize war against Syria now being reinterpreted to authorize such a war, post-facto. If that’s not an usurpation of the power to declare war, nothing is.

It is thus beyond reasonable dispute that a state of war was created between the US and Syria without a declaration to that effect by Congress, and that warmaking activities by US forces there are in violation of the Constitution.

[archy]

Trading unit patches, insignias, berets, caps, bayonets, exotic ration items, what fun to do a linkup with Spetznaz!

Brits fight for their King or Queen, Frenchmen for la belle Francaise et glorie and Americans fight for souvenirs and tradin' goods.

I have always gotten along well with foreign specops units I’ve rubbed elbows with. I’d trade most of them for our own leftard welfare rats.

I kind of got to appreciate the term I heard from them for their own slackers and backstabbers at home: sтунея́дец [tunejádec] Parasites.

[archy]

Why are American forces in Syria?

Did I miss a Declaration of War passed by Congress?

Nah. President Thomas Jefferson sent some Marines over to to get the attention of some pirates around Tripoli, and they seem to have forgotten the message. It's not a war-yet- just a little reminder.

[TexConfederate1861]

People had better realize that Russia isn’t as much a threat as China and North Korea, or Iran.

[\/\/ayne]

Video: 400 Yard Slingshot

[archy]

few I worked with were French Foreign Legion, Australian SAS and ROK Marines during my career..... Also was on same site with Syrians during Desert Shield / Storm but they suck camel d*ck as expected.

I got to work with Vietnamese troops, good and bad, beginning with my first week in-country, with ARVN Marines. Shortly thereafter I could add Australians and the guys from the South Korean Tiger division to the list. I'd already worked with the British Army of the Rhine and the Gurkhas along the East German border, and with the German Army, of course. There've been a lot of others over the years, some a long way from their homes. Me too.

But when I'm around the Gurkhas, I am at home, with my little adopted brothers, who've honoured me more than once by taking me out bush as one of their own for a little stroll in the woods. Their mountains are my mountains.

In this century, [since 1990] I've added another to the list: the guys from GROM, the Polish Special Forces, whom I was once in a position to do something useful for, and didn't let them down. Squantos, you'd get on with their demo guys just fine;;GROM is the Polish word for *thunder* and they do believe in big noises, even if their nickname is *the silent unseen*.

One other oddity, and it's not a foreign unit. Over the last 5 decades I've more than once run into an American in an odd place, busy at something useful, and often alone or with only one or with only one or two other guys around sometimes maybe a thousand miles from a coastline or port. I just wondered why the US Coast Guard happened to be there. But maybe I didn't really want to know, so I didn't ask.

Cubans on Grenada were as close as I every got to Spetznaz (I think)

I'm pretty sure I got closer to the Voyska spetsialnogo naznacheniya and other VDV and GRU fellers than you did on Grenada. Once they offered me the loan of a PM pistol in a fairly nasty area, and I suggested I wasn't much of a shot with a handgun, but if they had a vezh'lo [oar] I could borrow I'd be grateful- and I got one. It turned out to have been a really good idea.

[archy]

The two nations are working together with Kurdish YPG fighters in the country to combat ISIS in Syria and neighboring Iraq.

In other words, we're on the same side finally.

Yeah, except that our NATO ally Turkey despises the Kurds and exterminates them every chance they get, and supports the jihadis.

And our European NATO allies, France and Germany in particular, have allowed themselves to be overrun and occupied by *refugee* footsoldiers from the area.

[archy]

We were not previously in a state of war with Syria as a result of AUMF.

The fighting in Syria is/has been a de facto civil war, largely stoked by the American media and their political masters on one side, and rabid jihadis on the other. I don't see that we need any formal declaration for or against either side, no more than we need one against Somali pirates or Mexican cartel gunman armies.

Now, suddenly we are - without a declaration by Congress.

Why ruin the beauty of a thing with legalities?

--Actor Brian Keith, portraying US President Theodore Roosevelt, in the John Milius film The Wind and the Lion

[archy]

I hope there is some commo between the positions.

[nighttime yell: Hey, Ivan, look in your nightscopes! The pigs are eating the Dukhai dead....

[archy]

Hand-grenade range? What, we’re on opposing sides now? Who writes this crap?

Come to think of it, about twice a day, I'm within hand grenade range of one of my local TV stations.

[archy]

. Kill these bastards where ever they arr as fast as we can.

Concur. Do you happen to know why/how Grom was begun in 1989?

Those boys do NOT repeat mistakes.

JW GROM

[cowboyusa]

If Hillary had won, we would have had a Nuclear War by now.

[Forward the Light Brigade]

Need picture of Russian and American troops shaking hands. Together we beat Hitler—ISIS should be a piece of cake in comparison.

[minnesota_bound]

Tell the Saudi’s to fight their own war if they want a pipeline to Europe thru Syria.
We have no business in Syria.

[thoughtomator]

It’s amazing how groups of jihadists from places like Libya and Afghanistan can, with more than a little help from Hillary Clinton, create a “civil” war in Syria, ain’t it?

[Travis McGee]

I have mostly gotten along well with all the Russians I’ve met.