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Coal Ash: 'Why in The World Would we be Importing It?'
Chem.info ^ | 3/23/2017 | SARAH RANKIN (AP)

Posted on 03/24/2017 7:47:36 AM PDT by Rio

Shipping containers full of coal ash from China, Poland and India have come into the U.S. through the Port of Virginia as foreign companies find a market for the same industrial waste that America's utilities are struggling to dispose of.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: coal; coalash
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An interesting story about a by-product of the coal industry that is needed, but not wanted.

Excerpted due to AP origin.

1 posted on 03/24/2017 7:47:36 AM PDT by Rio
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To: Rio

Why are we? The stuff is dangerous and has led to utilities not using coal.


2 posted on 03/24/2017 7:50:19 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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To: Rio

IIRC, fly ash is used in some formulations of cement, and is used to make cinder block.


3 posted on 03/24/2017 7:52:13 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Rio

Why? Same reason we are burning food in our gas tanks due to agricultural subsidies. Our environmental policies are broken because common sense policy is fought at every turn in the courts. The environmental lawsuit industry is a self-perpetuating cycle of lawyers getting paid, workers getting screwed, and taxpayers picking up the bills.


4 posted on 03/24/2017 7:55:02 AM PDT by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Mouton
The stuff is dangerous and has led to utilities not using coal.

Way less dangerous that a lot of other things on our planet. Fly ash has a use in concrete and concrete products. Bottom/economizer ash has uses as a road base. Coal burning utilities don't shut down because of ash. They shut down due to over regulation.

5 posted on 03/24/2017 7:55:44 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I just got done celebrating Black History Month. Obama and Kaepernick are both history. Hurray!)
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To: Rio

If we created enough American coal ash for our construction demands, we wouldn’t have to import it.


6 posted on 03/24/2017 7:59:04 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Jerusalem is the city of The Great King! Forgive my misspelling when on my tablet)
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Knowing the ChiComs there is no telling what kind a nasty extras are being added to that ash.


7 posted on 03/24/2017 8:06:25 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Dogbert41

China, etc., must be selling this stuff at a negative netback...


8 posted on 03/24/2017 8:07:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Rio

Coal ash—once considered a waste product—has found its niche as an ingredient for the manufacture of cement and concrete. I’m surprised China exports it given their own massive demand for concrete in that country.


9 posted on 03/24/2017 8:11:16 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Rio

Used to work for a company that used coal. Too much ash for the concrete industry. We landfilled it.


10 posted on 03/24/2017 8:12:41 AM PDT by joesbucks
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Just doing the jobs that US made coal ash won’t do?


11 posted on 03/24/2017 8:17:14 AM PDT by slumber1 (Islam delenda est)
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To: joesbucks

As we live in “coal country” we keep up with these kinds of issues. We also have lots of “back roads” that have been impossible to keep passable. About 5 years ago they laid a road that I have traveled for years. It was an experimental road using coal ash mixed with whatever else they used. That road has not had the first crack, while roads in the same area are pot holed so awful you can hardly navigate them. So, I pray that they use the coal ash mixture to pave the rest of them. Coal ash also makes a good foundation for roads and buildings.


12 posted on 03/24/2017 8:23:20 AM PDT by WVNan
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“These materials can be had for several dollars a ton if trucked directly from a utility to a factory or job site. They’re more expensive to obtain in a useful form after decades underground or underwater. That makes foreign imports economically viable.”


13 posted on 03/24/2017 8:29:36 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Mouton

Actually fly ash is great stuff. I’m experimenting with it now.


14 posted on 03/24/2017 8:34:33 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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To: WVNan
The following is a summary list of fly ash’s contribution to concrete:

Increases ultimate concrete strength

Increases concrete durability

Is more economical than portland cement

Reduces the heat of hydration (first used in mass concrete construction in the building of Hungry Horse Dam, Montana,1948)

Reduces risk of alkali-silica reaction (ASR)

Increases resistance to sulfate attack

Reduces concrete bleeding (water loss at the surface after placement)

Reduces concrete shrinkage during curing

Reduces the amount of water required in mixtures

Reduces permeability (increases concrete’s resistance to water penetration)

Improves workability (microscopic, spherical-shaped particles create a more flowable, easier-to-finish concrete)

Lightens the color of concrete

Fulfills LEED points (LEED MR 4.1, Reclaimed Materials/Recycled Content) and is routinely specified on many green projects

Meets the guidelines of many building codes, design guidelines and standards that encourage fly ash recycling in concrete.

Meets ASTM standards and test methods (ASTM C618-08, C1240 and C 311-07)(viii)

Is environmentally beneficial (ix).

15 posted on 03/24/2017 8:34:54 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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Sounds like good stuff to make a huge, long wall out of.


16 posted on 03/24/2017 8:44:19 AM PDT by PeteyBoy (The wall. Build it and they won't come.)
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To: Rio

I remember a cat food product that claimed to be “low ash”. They went bankrupt, because apparently people don’t want ANY ash in their cat food.


17 posted on 03/24/2017 8:56:07 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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Coal ash has thorium in it which can be used to create cheap and efficient thorium salt reactors.


18 posted on 03/24/2017 8:56:49 AM PDT by Fish Speaker (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: WVNan; joesbucks

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As we live in “coal country” we keep up with these kinds of issues. We also have lots of “back roads” that have been impossible to keep passable. About 5 years ago they laid a road that I have traveled for years. It was an experimental road using coal ash mixed with whatever else they used. That road has not had the first crack, while roads in the same area are pot holed so awful you can hardly navigate them. So, I pray that they use the coal ash mixture to pave the rest of them. Coal ash also makes a good foundation for roads and buildings.
>

What!? Hold on now. How do you think the govt will get to line their pockets w/ taxpayer $$ if the roads lasted and didn’t need the re-paving/repairs?!

Plus, think of the UNION! All those guys doing nothing at a snails-pace. What would they do now? /s...semi


19 posted on 03/24/2017 8:57:05 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: BipolarBob

Years ago our local town decided to repave all the streets using coal ash as a base. It worked great until some old biddy got a summer cold and blamed it on the ash.
The project was shut down and there are still unpaved streets around here because of HER.

My driveway has bottom ash in it, and I used lots of it to fill holes where there used to be an orchard.
I often used cement mixed with only bottom ash for various light concrete projects. After almost thirty five years some are still holding up.


20 posted on 03/24/2017 8:59:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( "You know Caligula?" --- "Worse! Caligula knows me!")
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