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Posted on 02/27/2017 9:40:42 AM PST by dayglored
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it would be enough lure for me IF i could run linux only for all online activity, and neve3r allow windows to access the Internet- like i can do by dual booting- I don’t see how windows can be denied online access while allowing linux online access- I would think that under this new windows setup- linus would only be allowed Internet access through windows access? (Much like it works via virtual machines)
I guess I’m not understanding this- is it just for developers? And not like a full blown linux distro like mint on windows?
A better (IMNSHO) is, will this Win version run in WINE or VMWARE or similar?
Looks to me like it's a way for Linux developers (users to a lesser extent) to run Linux commands and services (like SSHD), even a Linux desktop, within the Windows context, without having to spin up a Linux VM, or install a third-party Linux-like environment such as Cygwin.
It's not a Linux distro. It's a support/translation layer that redirects Linux system calls into the Windows system for execution.
If you desired a true distro (eg.g. Mint), you need to put it in a VM (under windows).
I’ve been running Windows 10 and Lubuntu on a Toshiba M400 for like forever now
Hey Red, I’ve got a quick question for you.
I turned off Windows 7 updates during the “free” Windows 10 upgrade period, and have never turned them back on. Is it safe to accept Win7 updates now?
I will never again run Windows if I can help it. That MicroSoft may end up needing Linux connected developers is sweet irony.
oh ok Thanks- - I misunderstood the concept- This system isn’t for me then-
Exactly. As it is, I will continue to dual boot Linux Mint.
Yes- you won’t get the nagging windows 10 updates on windows 7 updates anymore- used to be we had to hide certain KB updates to avoid the nagging screens for 10- but they aren’t there anymore-
Might wanna just do a search for ‘phone home updates in windows 7” though- not sure if there are any of those snuck in now or not-
We did the same. Some months ago, MSA removed all upgrade upgrades.
You should be safe now.
There’s suposed to be a new version of wine out- I haven’t tried it- but it’s wine 2.0 or something- suppsoed to work much better with windows programs
Just an aside fyi to all, If you haven’t run into “Secure Boot” yet, you will. Newer machines will only boot to Windows 10 or versions of Linux approved by MicroSoft. As of now that only includes Ubuntu and Red Hat. Turning off “Secure Boot” is a two step process, one in Win 10 and one in the BIOS. Why all this? It is to prevent malicious installations of Root Kits. If you turn it off, you’re vulnerable, so they say. Linux developers have to pay 100 dollars to get approved by MicroSoft. LOL.
For later perusal.
If Microsoft was smart they would embrace Linux with a complete Windows interface AND 100% compatibility with windows software.
Thanks, I'm aware of that. The "free" Windows 10 upgrade ended on July 29th of last year..
I've just learned to be suspicious of Microsoft over the years, and since I'm not a techie, I wonder what sort of nefarious little time bombs they might be slipping into an operating system they're actively trying to kill.
Thanks for the tip.
I haven’t heard of any ‘phone home’ crap that they’ve included in windows 7 recently- nothing like windows 10 anyways- I would trust it m ore than windows 10 anyways- but i dual boot and only very rarely allow windows to access the Internet- i use linux for almost all online activity- and shut off the connection in windows 7 via the network connection icon-
Windows 7 is only gonna be updated for another couple of years- so at that point I’ll likely never allow it access when that happens- and just keep it around for things like windows only games, photoshop, and a few MS only programs-
The following is extolling the virtues of linux- skip if not interested- don’t mean for it to be sale’s pitch, just a recommendation to those hwo might be considering dual booting or running linux- it’s not meant to be an anti-windows pitch
5 years ago i never thought I’d switch from windows- but when windows 10 crap came out- i motivated me to try linux in a dual boot scenario- Best thing I ever did- but admittedly, I do have a little techie knowhow (although not much- but enough to figure out some of the linux stuff like command lines needed for installing some htigns- although most things are just as easy to install as windows programs nowadays)
I like that it’s free- I like that once it’s tweaked the way you like it that it’s a lot like windows in look fell and function- and since i don’t do a lot of geek stuff- it works perfectly fine for on-line activity and email, and even skype like chatting through a browser- these things all work just as easily as windows- Drag and drop shortcuts to favorite websites on desktop- double click to go to site, easy peasy- printer works fine- everything recognized by linux like vid card, usb 3 card- etc- up and running in no time- all automatic=-
i installed a few linux programs that were not listed in the super easy ‘software manager’ app=- and they took a little finagling to get working- but no big deal- most programs are installed through the software manager with a click or two- super easy- but to be fair linux programs do kinda stink compared to windows programs like word- or photoshop- but again, i simply boot into windows for that stuff- I do use gimp- but kinda reluctantly- much prefer photoshop-
oh well- linux is still loads more safe than any windows distro- which is why i only go online mostly with linux-
I appreciate you taking the time to flesh out your experiences with Linux. That’s helpful to me, seeing as I might be forced to go the same route in future.
Thanks!
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