Trump's lawyer gets pounded by judges with questions about 'Muslim Ban' (tr)

Daily Mail ^ | February 7, 2017 | Francesca Chambers

[greeneyes]

The Government lawyer didn’t do very well. Didn’t seem to handle the interruptions very well.

[sport]

If the Democrats decide to riot violently in the streets, let them. That is why we have police departments. The alternative is surrender. I rather die fighting.

[Sgt_Schultze]

...we’ve surrendered our country to five people in black robes.

It's worse than that. Since the Court is evenly split, the defacto leader of the country turns out to be Justice Kennedy, who slides between the two sides.

[Professional]

This is making me so mad...it makes no sense...why doesn’t Trump steamroll them?

Clearly Trump and team aren’t stupid, a chess game is being played here that is much larger than this single but important EO.

What is the game?

[Gideon7]

Clearly Trump and team aren’t stupid, a chess game is being played here that is much larger than this single but important EO.

What is the game?

To deflect blame when the MSM tries to pin the next one on him?

[JohnBrowdie]

it’s the ninth circuit — the court where they play calliope music in the background.

[boatbums]

The goal is to keep out Islamic terrorists...no other religious group is perpetrating attacks all over the world! If ISIS blatantly states it is infiltrating the Syrian refugees being admitted into America, then, DUH!, you have to have some way of weeding them out BEFORE THEY GET HERE. What is so hard for them to comprehend this??? America doesn't owe it to the world to let everyone in who wants to come here. There have to be some controls - for everyone's benefit.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

Well, the rioting isn’t the worst of it, the worst of it is that the Democrats have the blueprint to defeat Trump every time on nearly every decision...from Keystone, to immigration, to trade, to finance, to Obamacare, to education...and so forth. Sue every decision in a cherry-picked court, in a cherry-picked district. Even if he does his Supreme Court nominee, it slows all his actions down to a crawl and he will be able to implement far less of his agenda. They will stall him and run out the clock on him. He will get no help or cooperation from anywhere...even less as the defeats or stalling maneuvers in court mount.

Using their endless money and their well-packed court system, they can litigate him at every turn, over and over. And his presidency will be hamstrung. That’s their blueprint. And it will work. This is what it’s like to try to reform and revolutionize an old broken-down system...the system itself fights you. You have to destroy the system from the outside then build a brand new one.

[sport]

What you are saying is the absolute truth. They also know that they can depend on the Republican Party to aid and abet them every step of the way. It is happening as we speak. To wit} He still has not gotten his Attorney General nominee nor his Supreme Court nominee confirmed. Both are essential to his plans. In addition, Congress[read Ryan and McConnell] still has not passed any legislation on either tax cuts or replacing obamacare. Both Ryan and McConnell are just standing around with their fingers up their noses looking wise. I believe that he shot himself in the foot or both feet be bringing the Establishment Republicans on board and putting them in positions of trust. He is being sabotaged right and left.

[politicianslie]

the appellates sounded like they want to send it back down for trial (rather than up to SCOTUS) in order to pound Trump about campaign statements re: a muslim ban.

This so called Muslim ban is just a start. Wait until later when Trump gets to the point he must if we are going to avoid the Europe like murders and rapes:

Every Muslim who follows their Koran is told to help overthrow our government.

Every Muslim who follows their Koran is told to kill infidels.

Every Muslim who follows their Koran is told that it is OK to rape children and infidels.

Every Muslim who follows their Koran.....

How do you vet members of a religion that are told to kill us? ANSWER: You don't, you remove all members of this "religion" because they cannot be members of a civilized society.

[dontreadthis]

but then, SO WHAT?
the President has the authority to ban all muslims from entering

[IamConservative]

Interesting that now liberals are equating terrorism with Islam. That is the only way one could conclude that Trumps order is a Muslim ban.

[Truth29]

"Using their endless money and their well-packed court system, they can litigate him at every turn, over and over. And his presidency will be hamstrung. That’s their blueprint. And it will work. This is what it’s like to try to reform and revolutionize an old broken-down system...the system itself fights you. You have to destroy the system from the outside then build a brand new one."

Indeed, the Left and the Right are going to find themselves in a strange agreement - burn it all down and start over. Of course, who emerges from the rubble is in dispute.

[MayflowerMadam]

“They shouldn’t even be hearing the merits of the case. Plaintiffs have no standing.”

Even if Plaintiffs did have standing, the merits of the case shouldn’t have been discussed in this venue. It was being held only for the “standing” issue. The merits would come later if necessary.

Once again, 9th Circuit does the WRONG THING. Will it never stop? Liberals are so corrupt!

[MayflowerMadam]

“the DOJ lawyer assigned to this case may not have been the best choice “

Ya think? I was so embarrassed for him that I had to turn the channel. They should’ve hired Jay Sekulow or similar, if possible.

[Seattle Conservative]

I was curious about the attorney from the DOJ and found this:

“August E. Flentje, a career trial attorney in the Department of Justice’s civil division, will represent the Trump administration.

In his 19 years in the department, nearly all in the civil division, Flentje has worked under every president since Bill Clinton. He was part of a team that received an an award from former Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. in 2013 for “extraordinary work” in the legal maneuvering around the Obama administration’s decision to support same-sex marriage in defiance of the Defense of Marriage Act passed by Congress.”

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-live-updates-9th-circuit-arguments-these-are-the-attorneys-fighting-for-1486505915-htmlstory.html

[unread]

"I think you have to much faith in the Supreme Court doing something rational."

Agreed... The infestation goes all the way to the bone... It would take half a life-time to root out all commie left ingrained in our government....

[unread]

"This isn't a matter of "going with Trump". It's a matter of going with the Congress, the Constitution and the rule of law. There's no way the SCOTUS can just blatantly ignore the law, the Constitution, and existing precedent."

I don't believe Ruth Bader Ginsburg has EVER made a decision based on the constitution in her entire life... She has put her contempt for our constitution right up front for everyone to see....

[LS]

Whatever. This won’t be a victory the way the courts are. Trump will have to do a workaround.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

The workaround will be take n court, then the workaround after that...and on and on endlessly. You use the weapon you have, the Democrats have this weapon.

Four years of slow walk, even if the Supreme Court nominee gets through.