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Some Insight As To The 'Recounts' (Hostage)
Tree Republic ^ | Day after Thanksgiving 2016 | Hostage

Posted on 11/25/2016 10:13:41 PM PST by Hostage

What I am about to write may be seen, even by myself if it were not me writing, as conspiracy, paranoia, hysterics.

Except for one thing: I lived through two elections in Washington State where I saw the same pattern repeated that is emerging now before our eyes. It is theft pure and simple.

I do not do this to create fear or hysteria. I will write what I think can and must be done to stop this theft in the making.

As you read, I will try to keep it short and endeavor to equip you with an awareness that you can use with your own gifts to counter what the democrats are doing right now. Even if you are not an activist, just talking and tweeting with your family, coworkers, community helps to counter the media narrative that is about to break wide open.

DESCRIBING DEMOCRATS First, note that the democrats don't care about morality, about what's right or wrong, or anything that tilts 'logic' to their opponents. They only care about winning. Nothing else matters.

LOW-LEVEL DEMOCRATS Low-level democrats need only a 'party line lie' to regurgitate and they are good to go. "Count Every Vote!", "Elections Must Be Trusted!", etc. They will never know the behind-the-scenes goings on that cause the election to be stolen and they will never believe it was stolen. Just give them the party line and they will march in lock-step together.

MIDDLE-MANAGEMENT DEMOCRATS These persons have some sense that they are playing a game and taking one for the team but they are never directly privy to the actual plan details. These are County Election Supervisors who are democrats, unionized government officials, unionized parole officers, (yes, parole officers) in populous counties of states where they swing the state because of their numbers to blue candidates. These are the ones that always report last because they need to know if they have enough stash of false ballots at the ready.

HIGH-LEVEL DEMOCRATS These are democrat operatives that are highly paid and well-taken care of by proxies of the inner ring of the top candidates. Much of this was revealed in detail in James O'Keefe's Project Veritas undercover videos. These democrats are shrewd and cunning, they know what to say and how to say it so that their tracks and culpability are kept free of direct evidence that hangs them. When they do get caught (and some have been in the past), they are taken care of and reassigned. Thus, they haven't much to fear.

THE MECHANICS OF THE STEAL I'll get to the final act right away and then back up to explain how they get there.

"MANUFACTURE FALSE BALLOTS FAVORING THE DEMOCRAT AND SWITCH THEM OUT FOR LEGITIMATE VOTES".

I know it sounds rather anti-climatic to the intrigue you think I am building but I am not at all trying to induce 'drama' here. The goal is simply to pass on the findings, observations, and conclusions of previous election theft by democrats. As we will see, the above is the only way the democrats can steal an election and they have done so in the past as many here have suspected. However, I am going to write about some of the nuts and bolts of the process and then declare what must be done to stop it legally if it can be stopped legally. The alternative is to use democrat tactics against them. But either case requires an intense ground game. This election is unfortunately not over.

Note a few facts and things from history:

* Ballots are put into boxes or bags and tagged, sealed or marked. Inside are marked ballots with no identifying information. They are merely marked cards and nothing else.

* If one could switch out a box of 1000 ballots with another box of 1000 ballots, there may be no way to tell the difference in what was original and what was substituted. The ballot box and bag tags with custody signatures and dates are not always completely secure from tampering.

* Vote counting usually stops when the margin of victory is larger than the number of ballots remaining to be counted. The number of votes still to be counted are put in a safe place and are held for a long period of time.

* The accounting of how many votes are still to be counted is fairly well-defined and precise. With high probability, it will not be possible to add to the number of votes outstanding. The number is known unless the election is very close and still ongoing in the hours following in which case there will be stories of ballots found etc. But that is not the case here. The case here is in the switching out of ballots that were left uncounted because they did not matter to the margin of victory.

So let us pretend for a moment that we are democrat operatives who are making a plan to overturn and steal the election. We have to do a few things as fast as possible.

1) We have to do the math and determine the range and bound of numbers that make for a plausible story line. The key here for the entire 'criminal syndicate' is to get everything 'plausible' as talking points to repeat.

Remark: Our rank and file do not think we are a 'criminal syndicate'. We are a 'team' working to beat the criminal republicans. Ok? If any of our rank and file is caught, then they were just bucking up against the crimes the republicans have been committing for decades. It's Ok to break the rules because if we don't, the republicans will. (This is reasoning that is standard for criminals).

2) The math in step 1) is not trivial. We are going to ***switch out*** marked boxes and bags of ballots that have not been counted. We know how to do this. We are going to get to people that have the keys to the storerooms. They may be on our team and will know to look the other way; they didn't see anything unusual. If they are not part of our team and their office is crucial to our plan, then we need to get them to go on vacation for awhile or be put on temporary assignment elsewhere. We have the methods to make this happen. If any of our insiders gets caught, they know we will take good care of them. If they go against us, they know the consequences.

We may use parole officers who are on our team to send in some parolees to carry boxes, bags, and trash. The parolees will not know what is happening. But they know they had better do what their Parole Officer tells them to do. Their lives and future freedom hang in the balance. (Yes, this has been done before)

The ***switch out*** has to be with false ballots that are placed in the original bags or boxes after taking out the original ballots. We need to make the original ballots disappear. IMPORTANT: The false ballots cannot appear to be unreasonably for our candidate. The numbers favoring our candidate should appear to be 'reasonable'. We cannot create too much suspicion. Our math has to be believable. There has to be a 'plausible' expected count to ensure our candidate is put over the top.

3) Keep quiet and work fast. It is going to take a lot of effort and time to do this math and reiterate the numbers as our plans develop on the line of getting our people inside to execute the plan, and there is a deadline so we need to work feverishly. IMPORTANT: While we do the math and planning we want our opponents to think they won and to not be watching as we get the switch out in the works. We are planning in secret and do not want to alert our opponent to call in their watch dogs as we gain access to the ballot safe lockers.

4) We must somehow come up with a way to get our opponent's Margin of Victory reduced to less than the ballots that were left uncounted so that we can force the recounting. We will have our false ballots with the right numbers ready when this happens.

a. We can have one of our guys agree that he made an 'error' in manually entering the totals into his/her calculator after we have altered the background logs and data to allow this claim of human error. But we need more than just one error. We need to flip several states into our column and that will involve many different officials all of whom could not have made the same type of error.

b. We can try to create a scenario where we discover computer alteration of numbers by foreign hackers. Our insiders can get the ballot logs and change them to reflect padding of numbers must have occurred. We will need to create a 'forensic' finding of a hack occurred that reflects that vote totals were padded in favor of our opponent.

c. We have to be careful here because in court there will be discovery which can impede out progress but we can aim to stop the certification by Congress and delay the inauguration. Our computer scientists must come up with a scheme that is provable in a court of law. We have the Soros people on our side and they control GEMS. They can testify there is an audit trail showing that votes were added by an outside hack. We have DOJ people that will submit their evidence of a Russian originated hack. We will win at the district court level and the appeals level. The Supreme court will be tied and our ruling will be upheld as a result.

And so on. You can take it to the bank they are doing something quite similar to the above scenarios.

WHAT TO DO

If they have not done so already, the Trump people need immediately to station observers at the election offices 24/7 to stop the switch out.

All computer records and transmission codes must be obtained and put under a Court Master for safe keeping.

The Electors must be allowed through rulings of a court to proceed to vote on December 19, 2016 based on certified results to date. Any court ruling staying their vote must be overturned.

The Republicans in the House and Senate must follow through and certify the election for President based on the Electoral College submissions.

NOW HEAR THIS! Pay careful attention to what follows here.

“January 6, 2017”

“The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes.”

“If a State submits conflicting sets of electoral votes to Congress, the two Houses acting concurrently may accept or reject the votes. If they do not concur, the votes of the electors certified by the Governor of the State on the Certificate of Ascertainment would be counted in Congress.”

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/key-dates.html

IMPORTANT: "State submits conflicting sets of electoral votes to Congress". Think about that. Congress CAN HANDLE conflicting sets of votes.

Now think back to the scenario (near certainty) that the democrats obtain a district level court ruling that the Electors be barred from gathering on December 19, 2016 to formally cast their votes for their states. The above language clearly allows for conflicting sets of votes to be submitted to Congress.

What must be done is a make a pre-emptive strike to obtain a court affirmation that the language of Congress supersedes any other court ruling to the contrary. In other words, a court cannot stop the submission of conflicting sets of votes. Each set of votes must be submitted to Congress. Concurrently a stay (restriction, TRO, Preliminary Injunction) must be obtained to bar any other party from seeking to stop the submission of Electoral votes to Congress. Such a stay should be obtained at the appellate level in which case a tied Supreme Court will leave the stay in place.

The strategic details are in which appellate court to seek the affirmation and stay. This is crucial.


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Praying.
1 posted on 11/25/2016 10:13:41 PM PST by Hostage
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Trump won. He is the 45th President of the United States of America. No recount will change that result. Enjoy it. Don’t pay attention to this Leftist nonsense.


2 posted on 11/25/2016 10:22:39 PM PST by kabar
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To: Hostage
Thinking the strategy much more simpler

According to this article by the Journal Sentinel (Milwaukee - Wisconsin), Stein is requesting a "hand count." Apparently the recount can not be accomplished before Dec 13, the deadline for the EC vote. If unable to complete before the EC votes will NOT be counted.

Pure evil

http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/25/recount-would-have-move-quickly/94417686/

3 posted on 11/25/2016 10:27:57 PM PST by saywhatagain
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To: Hostage

Either Trump is inaugurated on 20 Jan 2017, or the United States ceases to exist. There are no other options, and no other possible outcomes.


4 posted on 11/25/2016 10:28:59 PM PST by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Hostage

Prayer. Exactly. This is Satan, pure and simple.


5 posted on 11/25/2016 10:29:24 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: saywhatagain

If a State fails to send electors, then it fails to vote in the Electoral College—which it can Constitutionally choose to do (not vote.) But if a State does not vote, then the number of votes required to win is reduced, because the Constitutional winner is whoever gets the most Electoral votes out of those actually cast.


6 posted on 11/25/2016 10:31:46 PM PST by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Hostage

I tend to agree. I’m not a conspiracy nut, but I sense this one is a vast, comprehensive conspiracy crafted by the same people. They are going away easily this time. Better be prepared.


7 posted on 11/25/2016 10:33:48 PM PST by Rebel2016
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To: Rebel2016

They are NOT go away easily - correction


8 posted on 11/25/2016 10:35:14 PM PST by Rebel2016
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To: Hostage

“Tree Republic?”. What is that?


9 posted on 11/25/2016 10:39:01 PM PST by Slip18 (Pickles got pickled!)
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To: Hostage

Because of the rush to count votes, very often...absentee ballots are simply skipped...which arrived a couple of days after the vote but having the qualified date on the stamp...could change the numbers. This is one of the issues/problems with the current system. I doubt if it’d be more than a one-percent change in the vote in most states.

I can remember voting as a GI in the 1990s and I didn’t get my ballot until four days before the election. I voted in a hurry and had it in the mailbox by the next day. I assume it was counted but it probably wasn’t in the state’s tally on the next day after the election.


10 posted on 11/25/2016 10:45:37 PM PST by pepsionice
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Busted! Jill Stein’s Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!

http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879

Soros could have thousands of bots or even botnets in the USA donating to Jill Stein’s website.

Stein had to let them in to pass the “Prove you’re not a robot” tests.So Soros , Stein, Hillary in on this “recount” in WI , PA ,MI, a scheme to flip all 3.

Don’t know all the details just a tiny bit. soros knows it all and this was plan 3 after his paid riots etc. Soros is funding most of this recount in WI

Soros and Hillary broke campaign finance laws. This recount in WI is sedition and illegal .Soros and Hillary must be arrested for this treason.

Roger Stone on Twitter: “Jill Stein “recount funded by Soros

https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/802230392493404160

Please Notify Trump about it.

https://www.greatagain.gov/

I’m tweeting the Trump team. could use some help on twitter getting this to Trump.


11 posted on 11/25/2016 10:46:58 PM PST by Democrat_media (bots are donating to Jill Stein's website for the recount. Soros behind big scheme)
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To: Hostage

Knock it off, you’re wasting screen space and pixels


12 posted on 11/25/2016 10:48:31 PM PST by Az Joe (11-8-2016-----We're still here President Reagan!!)
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To: saywhatagain

If the vote count is not complete, the state legislature picks the electors. The WI legislature is Republican


13 posted on 11/25/2016 10:49:18 PM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Hostage
Trump needs to become aware of this

Then go out there and sue these people and call it what it is the #SorosRecount

This is a coup de tat by Soros and Hillary using Stein as a will-full paid off stooge.

This is sedition .both Soros and Hillary need to be arrested now

14 posted on 11/25/2016 10:50:48 PM PST by Democrat_media (bots are donating to Jill Stein's website for the recount. Soros behind big scheme)
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To: kabar
"Trump won. He is the 45th President of the United States of America. Enjoy it. Don’t pay attention to this Leftist nonsense."

Preach it loud, FRere! End of discussion.

15 posted on 11/25/2016 10:55:06 PM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: kabar
"Trump won. He is the 45th President of the United States of America. Enjoy it. Don’t pay attention to this Leftist nonsense."

Preach it loud, FRere! End of discussion.

16 posted on 11/25/2016 10:55:06 PM PST by Gargantua ("President Trump... nice ring to it..." ;^)
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To: Hostage

It’s one thing to switch out a few hundred votes, but here it would be 100,000+. No one would believe the recount.


17 posted on 11/25/2016 10:58:01 PM PST by theoilpainter
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To: Hostage

“The ***switch out*** has to be with false ballots that are placed in the original bags or boxes .... “

What makes you think they haven’t already done this? It would have been a lot easier to do before the hint of a recount.


18 posted on 11/25/2016 11:05:30 PM PST by boycott (S)
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To: Hostage

I seriously am sick of how the right is so full of paranoid conspiracy looks.

Didnt you people swear Hillary had rigged all of the “soros” machines in Florida, Texas, Arizona, and in Pennsylvania too?


19 posted on 11/25/2016 11:28:46 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Hostage

This is vote fraud. It is real, it should be prosecuted, it should carry a death sentence.


20 posted on 11/25/2016 11:29:59 PM PST by exnavy
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