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Jill Stein campaign confirms it seeks recount of votes in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan
The Capital Times ^ | 11/23/2016 | LISA SPECKHARD

Posted on 11/23/2016 3:17:22 PM PST by ThE_RiPpEr.

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To: Pearls Before Swine

Actually according to the WI laws, anyone who was a candidate can ask for a recount. WI petition has to be in by Monday and MI and PA later in the week. Will check further if she has to pay up front first.


21 posted on 11/23/2016 3:28:13 PM PST by bobsunshine
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

If I were Trump’s team, I’d fight her in court on the basis that she doesn’t have STANDING to contest the results, no more than anyone else other than Hillary, since Stein has about as much chance of winning Michigan, or Penn, or Wisconsin, as my grandmother does.

If Hillary wants to contest the results, then let her people challenge it...this proxy crap needs to end, and END NOW!


22 posted on 11/23/2016 3:28:49 PM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

I can recount them from here. You still didn’t win, Jill.


23 posted on 11/23/2016 3:29:37 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Can just anyone demand a recount?


24 posted on 11/23/2016 3:30:00 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: guido911
“Trump should be rethinking the HRC “off the hook” gesture...”

I couldn't agree more. I must admit, my first inclination was to be magnanimous and agree with letting her go off the public stage without going after her legally. That said, the Clintons are kind of like Michael Myers from the Halloween movies, and you can't let them ‘come back’. Trump would do well to remember the lyrics from ‘The Snake’.

25 posted on 11/23/2016 3:31:41 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Chaguito

No.

You have to show you could win and you have to pay upfront especially if its likely you will lose.

That’s sufficient to discourage frivolous recount requests.


26 posted on 11/23/2016 3:32:40 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Are they going to look for all the illegal aliens who voted for Hitlery in those three states?

What about the dem voter fraud in Philadelphia? The voting machines that flipped votes from Trump to Clinton?

The activists who registered in the names of deceased people and all the fake names?

What BS.

Moonbat Jill is a puppet of Hillary and Soros.


27 posted on 11/23/2016 3:32:43 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (November 8, 2016..... Donald Trump schlongs Hillary Clinton. 306 Electoral Votes)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

I’m bored, I want a Recount in California. Oh, they haven’t finished counting the votes 2 weeks later? That’s odd in a free and democratic society...hmmm


28 posted on 11/23/2016 3:34:48 PM PST by wiseprince
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To: Major Matt Mason

Stein is no competitive she will be denied. She was in 3rd or 4th place.


29 posted on 11/23/2016 3:34:57 PM PST by DarthVader ("These lying tyrants are about to get hit with a tsunami of destruction on their evil reign." Gaffer)
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To: kabar

...No doubt supported and funded by the Dems...
Bernie got a $650,000 house on Lake Champlain for endorsing Her Heinous after she stabbed him in the back.
By Jill doing this, it deflects attention from Hillary being a whiny spoiled brat sore loser.


30 posted on 11/23/2016 3:35:04 PM PST by Sasparilla (I Am Not Tired Of Winning)
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To: bobsunshine

Thanks for the info. So in WI Jill has standing.


31 posted on 11/23/2016 3:35:09 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

I smell someone covering for a Clinton that won’t accept election results.


32 posted on 11/23/2016 3:35:13 PM PST by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
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To: bobsunshine

The article states that payment is needed up front. Not clear if the cash must accompany the petition.

Really don’t see how they can do Wisconsin by Friday with the Holiday and all. What a nasty bunch of idiots. We have enough unrest among the moonbats without this.


33 posted on 11/23/2016 3:36:02 PM PST by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Let’s recount Virginia and NH too while we’re at it. Trump let that fraud go because he won but fraud it is


34 posted on 11/23/2016 3:36:35 PM PST by wiseprince
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

Isn’t there a warrant out for this nut for damaging some property at a protest?


35 posted on 11/23/2016 3:36:43 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Bushbacker1

Does she have standing?

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If she’s got the money, they’ll find the time.


36 posted on 11/23/2016 3:36:58 PM PST by deport
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To: dp0622

I think you’re right. Even mild-mannered conservative grandmas I know said they would take to the streets if the election result was overturned. God bless them!


37 posted on 11/23/2016 3:39:55 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: phoneman08

If she does get the money it will come from Clinton and/or Soros. It will be interesting to connect the dots.

Remember, it is all about the revolution.


38 posted on 11/23/2016 3:40:17 PM PST by ThE_RiPpEr. (Make America Great Again)
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To: ThE_RiPpEr.

#SendemSalt


39 posted on 11/23/2016 3:41:55 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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Here is a summary of the three states, etc that they are contesting. I don’t if what is presented
is accurate or wishful thinking.

Source:
http://www.alternet.org/its-starting-green-party-launches-fundraising-drive-presidential-recounts-wi-pa-and-mi

What follows are summaries of the scenarios and states the recount team has been studying, starting with provocative vote counts, their theories and then hurdles faced if a recount is filed.

Wisconsin
Election night’s unofficial returns found Trump ahead of Clinton by 27,000 votes. But Trump’s margins of victory appeared to be concentrated in counties using electronic voting systems rather than counties using paper ballots that were scanned and counted. Clinton only won counties using the paper ballots, the computer voting experts said. In the counties using a mix of electronic and paper-based voting systems that President Obama won in 2012, Clinton lost by 1-2 percent. In the counties Obama won using the paperless machines, she lost by 10 to 15 percent. (Five percent of the state’s 4.6 million voters, or 230,000 people, cast their ballots on paperless machines, state officials said last week).

Some independent analysts have also found what they are say are improbably high voter turnout figures in rural counties that went strongly for Trump. In 12 rural counties, the turnout was 86 percent of registered voters or more, a very high figure. “Either these voter turnout percentages are an historic achievement, unparalleled in my experience, or the unofficial results are not true and correct,” wrote Richard Hayes Phillips, a PhD who conducted similar analyses following the 2004 presidential election in Ohio.

On Monday, academics and election integrity activists posted screen shots from two Wisconsin counties showing more than 4,000 votes than ballots cast had been added to county totals. In one of those counties, local news reports said the clerk made an error manually adding up the figures.

Wisconsin also saw a record numbers of absentee ballots, with 831,000 ballots cast, which was about 30 percent of this fall’s vote. In past years, it was about 20 percent. Of that overall amount, about 134,000 were from people who mailed them in—instead of turning them in at polling places, state officials said. Those pursuing the recount want to ensure these ballots are all legitimate.

Michigan
Election Night’s unofficial returns found Trump ahead by 11,000 votes. But the Associated Press reported that 87,000 ballots did not show a presidential vote, the election integrity team said was suspicious and broke a 49,000 empty-vote record from past presidential elections. A recount could clarify if all those ballots were improperly read by the state’s optical scan voting systems, where computers process ink-marked paper ballots. They also would like to verify absentee ballots, where 25 percent of the state voted by mail. (Last week, Michigan Secretary of State Spokesman Fred Woodham dismissed the missing the 2016 missing-vote figure, saying it came from the Associated Press in New York City, not his office, and was not credible.)

Filing for a Michigan recount would present other big hurdles for the Greens. It has the nation’s most local election jurisdictions, with 1,500 local clerks managing 4,800 precincts. That underscores how large an undertaking a recount in Michigan would be. The state would charge the Greens up to $125 per precinct to recount the presidential vote.

Pennsylvania
The Election Night returns found Trump beating Clinton by 68,000 votes. The state mostly uses older electronic voting machines with no paper trail (unlike Wisconsin, where a cash register-like paper receipt is printed). The concern is that 16 counties are still using aging countywide tabulators that have Finnish computer security specialist Harry Hursti has shown can be easily hacked to change the reported results. These computers use old versions of Microsoft operating systems, which have security vulnerabilities that have never been fixed.

In Pennsylvania, the secretray of state can order a recount or it’s possible to initiate one on a precinct-by-precinct basis, as long as a petition is prepared with at least three electors for that jurisdiction, said Marybeth Kuznik of VotePA.us, and a $50 per precinct fee is paid. The window for that petition, however, is within the five days after the county’s complete their official canvas. In rural counties, that is quickly approaching.

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40 posted on 11/23/2016 3:42:11 PM PST by deport
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