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Americans Are Dying Faster. Millennials, Too
Yahoo.com ^ | 10/28/2016 | Ben Steverman

Posted on 10/28/2016 1:38:48 PM PDT by Smittie

Death awaits all of us, but how patiently? To unlock the mystery of when we’re going to die, start with an actuary.

Members of this 200-year-old profession who study risk and uncertainty pore over the data of death to estimate length of life. Putting aside the spiritual, that’s crucial information for insurance companies and pension plans, and it’s also helpful for planning retirement, since we need our money to last as long we do.

The latest, best guesses for U.S. lifespans come from a study (PDF) released this month by the Society of Actuaries: The average 65-year-old American man should die a few months short of his 86th birthday, while the average 65-year-old woman gets an additional two years, barely missing age 88.

This new data turns out to be a disappointment. Over the past several years, the health of Americans has deteriorated—particularly that of middle-aged non-Hispanic whites. Among the culprits are drug overdoses, suicide, alcohol poisoning, and liver disease, according to a Princeton University study issued in December.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Reference; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: americans; dying
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Life has just gotten better and better under Jughead...
1 posted on 10/28/2016 1:38:48 PM PDT by Smittie
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To: Smittie

Click on link for entire article.


2 posted on 10/28/2016 1:42:25 PM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Smittie
The average 65-year-old American man should die a few months short of his 86th birthday, while the average 65-year-old woman gets an additional two years, barely missing age 88.

But somehow, this is supposed to be bad news.

Actuaries are bats, btw.

3 posted on 10/28/2016 1:43:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: Tax-chick

Not believing. The chart says I won’t make it to 95. My mom is 95. My grandparents live to 100 or close to it. I am in excellent health, and never smoked or drank, am a fitness trainer and eat health. Nah. Not buying it.


4 posted on 10/28/2016 1:47:37 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: Smittie

Ezekiel Emanuel is pleased.


5 posted on 10/28/2016 1:49:55 PM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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Actuaries are bats, btw.

They're geeks! Boy, you think computer programmers are nerdy? They are James Bond compared to actuaries!
6 posted on 10/28/2016 1:52:09 PM PDT by notdownwidems (The Fourth Estate Is A Fifth Column Is A Filth Column!)
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To: freepertoo

Actuaries work for insurance companies. Insurance companies have to base their rates on the aggregates. It’s called “The Law of Large Numbers,” and it lets a corporation insuring hundreds of thousands of lives calculate what they need to charge to pay out on the ones who die, plus pay the company’s employees.

They love outliers who live far past the actuarial average, while they don’t like those who die sooner!

My point in my first post, however, was that if we’re looking at aggregates showing more than 20 years’ survival for 65-year-olds, that’s pretty darn good. Thank the vaccinations, antibiotics, anesthesia, joint replacements, cardiac bypass surgery, etc.


7 posted on 10/28/2016 1:54:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: notdownwidems

I worked with actuaries in a life insurance company. Loony toons! One believed in astrology. One was a Deadhead and supported Hillary Clinton’s health insurance plan. (Does anyone remember HillaryCare now?) One napped in his office except when Extreme Maths were needed.


8 posted on 10/28/2016 1:56:01 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: Smittie

Dying faster?

How long does it take to die? With cancer I guess one can linger for months, years.

Auto accident? Many die pretty much instantly, others in the golden hour.


9 posted on 10/28/2016 1:58:32 PM PDT by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)
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To: Tax-chick

Metaphysically thinking, living to a million would mean little if there’s no afterlife.


10 posted on 10/28/2016 1:59:13 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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The concept of extraordinarily long lives has been kicking around mythology and philosophy for a long time. Most treatments end up with, “Please, just let me die!”

As Christians, when we conceptualize “eternal life,” we have to make sure that we don’t come up with “this life, only it goes on endlessly.” That way lies despair.


11 posted on 10/28/2016 2:02:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: Smittie
Americans increasingly need an accurate sense of how long they’ll be alive. Employer shifts from traditional pensions—which sent a regular check for life—to individual 401(k) accounts means workers must figure out retirement on their own. When you die becomes a crucial variable, helping to determine how much you need to save and how much you can afford to spend.

There are apps that will calculate this for you, based on your age, your current health, and your life choices. Running these apps can be an eye-opener.

However, aggregates *always* have outliers. Even if you calculate, at 65, that your health history plus current lifestyle is going to kill you by 72, you could be wrong.

12 posted on 10/28/2016 2:07:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: freepertoo

Your genes are one of the most important things to consider.


13 posted on 10/28/2016 2:10:22 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Tax-chick

GREAT post.

I’m only 48 and have seen enough heartache (and physical ache :) ) to not want to live to 200 or whatever.

I am very happy for the folk that live to over 100 and are happy.

I just dont want to be one of them.


14 posted on 10/28/2016 2:12:46 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

I’m 50 and pretty worn out. Having observed my mother, I know I can tough it out to 80 or so, but if “eternal life” doesn’t offer us something Totally Different, it’s nothing to look forward to.

I believe in something Totally Different.


15 posted on 10/28/2016 2:14:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: Tax-chick

Me too regarding the last line!!


16 posted on 10/28/2016 2:17:06 PM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

I hope I’ll see you there, wherever “there” is.


17 posted on 10/28/2016 2:22:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Stop that. You're going to set the fire alarm off.)
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To: Smittie

I grew up having three nineteenth century born relatives (two of them lived into the 1980s and I nearly had a fourth with my 1881 born great grandfather living until 1968, two and a half years before I was born). And many of my other relatives who lived in nineteenth century times lived well into the following one (one great great grandmother lived from 1849 to 1947). So genes and lifestyle do play a good bit in all of this.


18 posted on 10/28/2016 2:23:26 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: OttawaFreeper; MinuteGal

We’re all going to die early because of political stress. Hillary may die of it today (one can always hope).


19 posted on 10/28/2016 2:26:33 PM PDT by flaglady47 (TRUMP Rocks!)
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To: Smittie

If the whiskey don’t kill me, I’ll live ‘til I die.


20 posted on 10/28/2016 2:41:47 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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