Posted on 09/12/2016 6:45:17 PM PDT by Hootowl
I don't intend this to be a "gotcha" but I spent 24 years as a technical editor and proposal coordinator in the defense industry and, although your statement above is accurate, in practice there are exceptions. I well recall engineers handing me Top Secret material (text and rough-draft illustrations) that had no classified markings but which I knew to be Top Secret. Part of my job was to mark it appropriately.
You forgot “situational classifications”.
Examples: A Mil Intell guy in the field sends back a report on enemy movements, positions, numbers, etc. If on a battlefield, it is automatically a classified item and then given a specific level of classification - Restricted, Confidential, Secret, Top Secret (and other more modern variations).
I can safely assume that all field intelligence reports and analyses are automatically classified until processed.
The same for Teletypes/Naval telegrams. I’m looking at some from WW2 right now at the National Archives. If they are classified, they are printed out with Red Ink classification levels or handstamped on each page unless the cover sheet says that the classification on the cover applies to all contents in it. (Or that the National Archives and military owning/donating agency has declassified it under any number of NNDs or Executive Orders after a bulk declassification review. (This applies to mainly older documents from WW2 and earlier).
I am assuming that all military/intelligence evaluations and their raw data documents are automatically assumed to be classified or are physically labelled/stamped classified until declassified by a specific order or declassification authority (usually stamped on the document authorizing its downgrading and declassification).
The same would apply to FBI, CIA, DIA and NSA documents that apply to operations, personnel, techniques and interviews (I’ve reviewed 302 and 203 files from WW2 past 9/11).
Some things are just automatically known to be “classified” by their very existence.
Hillary and her corrupt crew knew exactly what they were doing. Hillary learned from Bill being president and what was on his desk (with bright colored classification sheets).
The question is what levels of authorization did Hillary and her staff have to even see certain levels of classified documents. Huma, Cheryl, and others - they had to have high clearance levels and were taught what were the responsibilities that came along with handling classified materials.
There is no excuse for their unethical, corrupt, criminal and possibly treasonous behavior.
Comey blew it. He covered up crimes and should be tried himself for dereliction of duty or worse.
Also, government equipment is usually marked “Not for Classified Materials” Or “Do Not Send Classified Materials” on computers, scanners, Fax machines, etc.
What happened with Hillary was deliberate, preplanned, and criminal.
RALPH NADER: “It’s Hillary's email content, not the classification or non- classification, and, the lethal quadrangle of collusion and buck-raking... <><> Hillary in the State Dept, <><>the Clinton Foundation, <><> Bill Clinton pocketing $10,000 a minute per speech, and, <><> corporate mining magnets and other far-flung corporations wanting (and getting) favors.
===========================================
And do not forget our tax dollars facilitated many of the Clinton deals.
Wall Street analyst, Charles Ortel, told Judge Jeannine that Clinton Foundation books report intake of some 2 billion dollars.....but via Ortel's prodigious research, Ortel asserts the Foundation raised a staggering 100 billion dollars.
Much of that money is secretly stashed all over the globe, and is wire- transferred to fuel Hillary's campaign, as needed. She needs fund-raisers like she needs a hole in the head.
Even more egregious, the Clintons used our tax dollars AND confidential/classified/top secret State Dept info (belonging to US taxpayers) to structure the lucrative deals.
Here are the most outrageous statements Clinton made in her three-and-a-half hour FBI interview: 1. She cited her 2012 concussion as the reason that she cannot remember details of briefings during her “transition out of office.” 2. She said she never even thought whether emails she exchanged on a future U.S. drone attack should be classified. 3. She said she thought the “C” before a paragraph indicated alphabetical order. The C actually stands for “confidential/classified.” 4. She said no one ever raised concerns to her about her use of a private email server. 5. She said she could not recall any training on how to handle classified information. What’s more, Clinton aides told the FBI that the Secretary of State frequently replaced her Blackberry phone and the whereabouts of her old device would become “unknown.” The FBI report suggests there were at least 13 different devices used.
Hillary instructed one of her minions to remove classification marking from a document and send over unsecured lines.
I don’t know much about classification. The entire matter with HC seems to be a “parsing words game”. One thing I think is being missed. The classified information from sources other than the State Dept. The FBI, NSA, etc classified the information. HC then altered it and sent it via unsecured means. She shared this information with Sid B., her lawyer, various people within the CF. The FBI has skirted around the entire issue. DOJ probably ordered same. Someone needs to make this Bitch accountable.
Classification authority comes from:
* the military project you are working with and their classification guide for the program
* government authorities that have classification authority, like the President, Secretary of State, top military figures, whose created works on specific subjects is classified based on the content
For example, anything an officer says on where they are, where they are planning to go, their supply levels - classified.
Anything Clinton did on negotiations, critical personnel locations, her own schedule - classified.
Anything that she wouldn’t have wanted anyone who would want to kill her (locations at times, through an itinerary) is thus classified.
This is true whether she writes it on a personal device or classified one, but the critical nature of it is such that the government wanted people like her to HAVE a classified and controlled and secure device. And the people upset she used uncontrolled devices in areas they couldn’t secure is another indication they tried to maintain security but couldn’t because she had a system to do it.
Gross negligence is “I don’t care about security”, and the rules let you be punished for demonstrating that. Repeated acts of negligence, serious offense, like repeated cases of “oops, I harmed a patient” becoming manslaughter/murder charges.
A deliberate system to get around secure handling processes is NOT negligence, it is a deliberate, organized, orchestrated thing - and that is a major offense if not treason when doing it to aid enemies and allies who are paying for information they should not have.
More than that, she and her staff would have had to complete training and sign a NDA before being granted clearances. There is no "I didn't know, I wasn't trained" defense here, none.
Even if some of these parties had the proper clearances (and many of them apparently held no security clearance whatsoever) there's the "need to know" element. Just because you have a clearance at level X, doesn't mean you get to browse through any and all information classified at level X, or even below X. You have to have a justifiable, demonstrable need to know. You have to be able to articulate your need. The person granting you access to that information has to be able to articulate your need and agree before granting access.
There is no way Clinton or her staff could justify their mis-handling of classified information. The violations are far too egregious and far too numerous. These were not accidents or simple mistakes. This was planned and very intentional.
I was one of those engineers and we were supposed to mark them. I forgot what we were supposed to do with classified notes or rough drafts of documents. It’s been many years since I had mine.
Someone at a certain level decides the type of information that is classified. People with clearances are then taught what types of information is classified.
For example, on most projets I worked on the software was unclassified but the data was classified.
If we were gathering data or measuring specs and collecting info we were supposed to classify any document that had that info. That would include notes, emails (I didn’t use because I did not have a classified email) and documents.
Then there were other projects that were too secret and those entire They had totally separate computer networks. They were in a a vault like area and you couldn’t even talk about the program unless you were in there.
Rules in those programs were a ltitle different. You could leave classified data out because the entire office area was classified.
You are getting to my layman’s formulation of things, thank you. In essence, that she does NOT have that classified pipe is all the evidence anyone needs to know she cannot, de facto, observe prescribed security cautions. Because the great majority of every piece of commun in or out is meant to be secure. She has made it (by never getting a govt acct) that she cannot possibly be secure. The details of any one conversation are not what’s important, except, I guess, for a legalistic, iterative form of proof. So the argument that she didn’t see this or that designation entirely misses the point that she was incapable, without a govt acct, to send/rec secure information even if she wanted to.
At the risk of blurring the issue, it’s kind of like if she doesn’t have a pair of safety glasses, she can’t be around power tools where there are big signs saying that everyone has to have safety glasses. Doesn’t matter if she works with them or moves them or just plugs them in for someone else or turns her head when others use them or is just visiting the guys/gals using them. She’s expected to (and has pledged to) have them and wear them when in the vicinity....and the discussion is over.
In the late 80’s I used to work selling professional grade video equipment in Hollywood, and Lockheed (then) in Burbank was a massive customer. I once paid a visit to some engineering section deep inside somewhere or other for the purpose of selling an overhead video projector to display CAD drawings of (I presume) aircraft stuff, perhaps weapons. When I walked into the cubicle-cluster a dozen or so guys with pocket protectors got up from their desks, all their displays reverted to some kind of text-only display “uncleared visitor” and probably $600 an hour in salary was being blown off while was handing out my biz card and a Sony brochure. They obviously took it pretty seriously.
I once sold gear to Hughes in El Segundo where I had to deliver equipment onto a rolling cart in the parking lot and they could not give me a physical PO...and the engineer who “bought” (eg; requisitioned) it was so overjoyed that I could actually do that because it made his life so easy.
Those were great, great times, LA in the 80’s, I will always miss them but be grateful I lived there, then. It was ridiculous how easy it was to make money.
“Comey-the-Clown is a Co-Conspirator who Covered-up and Concealed Clinton’s Crimes.”
YES
B T T T
Standard onboarding is:
* briefings
* setting up accounts
* giving people their credentials, training to use system
She NEVER had an official government email as secretary of state, which is standard. So she from the start went around the formal process, and others supported the information transfers in violation of the law.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.