Skip to comments.U.S. Navy Officers in Crosshairs Over Iran Debacle
Posted on 06/23/2016 6:04:20 AM PDT by LadyBuzz
The U.S. Navy is weighing whether to punish several officers and sailors for the botched mission that resulted in two boats inadvertently straying into Iranian waters, embarrassing Washington and handing Tehran a propaganda victory, Foreign Policy has learned.
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Inadvertent? Good question right there. Two boats, one with “trouble” but NO TOE LINE? Really. Something smells right there.
Obama forgot to tell them that a screw up on this secret mission would result in losing everything.
That...and the fact that they didn't have some form of tow line. The really amazes me. :)
That event stank from day one. I have done a lot of offshore fishing and you always want to try to keep another boat in sight, signal flares, and towline. Bad things happen when you fail to follow simple safety measures. I know this but OUR NAVY DOES NOT? Not believable, IMHO.
We need to know the full story. Something just finally does not add up. Also, how are the crews treated by the Iranians?
After almost 30 years active duty, and now just an old retired guy, I seem to remember a requirement for “Code of Conduct” training. I recall something about the enemy and a soldier, sailor, airman, (Ooops Read: Air person) and Marine’s required behavior. Maybe these sailors just missed that block of instruction.
A Captains Mast for the sea cook! That’s the answer.
Our navy does not know the usage of a tow line; however they sure know how to honor their transgenderd members.
...just Odungo being the petulant little azzhole he is....an excuse to screw up the military.
Then all they had left in the boats were just a bunch of “heels”. :)
No disrespect to the Navy as I took my first cruise with them when I was 9 months old.
I hope everyone has a great day.
Pull over... I is da speling poleece
Looking back on it, there's no doubt I overstepped my authority during an ARTEP (tac eval). My CO went catatonic on us after flubbing a mission order, and the platoon leader didn't question the order.
How ludicrous was it? The towed Vulcan had a max effective range of 1KM, and the order sent to this platoon was a 10 KM long route defense.
Anyhow, I took over the end of day meeting, and told the platoon leaders and NCOs what they would do the next day. I had moral authority as I was the only officer in the unit who had successfully taken 3 platoons through their ARTEPS. I knew like the back of my hand the duties of every position in our gun and missile platoons.
Unknown to me, the chief evaluator was standing near our CP van, and heard every word I said. He could have been 50 feet away and still heard, I was so incensed over the lack of leadership from the platoon leaders.
As I left the CP, I saw the chief evaluator with a big smile on his face, and he said, "LT, that was beautiful." In today's Army, I likely would have been court martialed. I escaped with a less than stellar efficiency report.
> ... Code of Conduct training
These 2 boats were SWCC boats.
SWCC boats are manned by sailors who have gone through intense training that includes SERE. These sailors had the training in “Code of Conduct” and much more. Their mission was obviously high risk and under orders from a very high.
Those who GAVE THE ORDERS to stand down instead of fight need the punishment.
When I served we sure did know a tow line. We took a storm-damaged sailing craft called the Northern Light under tow for a day and a half until the Coasties could get there to take over. And we had never heard of transgendered.
My battery was a composite Chaparral/Towed Vulcan battery, air base defense. We would support the nearby Nike/Herc battery during their inspections with a 40 man augmentation force. Lucky me, that was one of my "extra duties", ARF Cdr of 40 men who had not had any infantry tactics since Boot Camp.
My men performed their mission well, and we beat our mission time by 30 minutes. Still, that wasn't good enough for the team chief, and he remarked on that during the outbriefing.
After they left the Deputy CG of 32nd AADCOM addressed us, to congratulate the battery on a job well done. He also pointed his finger at me, and said, "LT, I'll take that hit for you. You've got my permission to give your soldiers extra training anytime you want to."
A few months later, I was an XO of a support group cobbled together from 20+ units. One soldier hadn't been paid for six weeks, after calls were made to his immediate chain of command. I told my clerk, "I will only speak to his Group Commander", knowing that he commanded the Nike/Herc units in Germany.
The conversation was stilted, until I said, "Colonel, I had the pleasure of briefly meeting you at the outbriefing a few months back. I was the ARF Cdr that supported your battery."
The tone changed immediately...lol. "LT, how are you doing? Great to hear from you!" Within 10 minutes, a jeep was put on the road with our soldier's paychecks, from home base over 400 miles away.
Such was the gravity of a nuclear surety inspection.
And I thank God that my unit was not open to women (Chaparral/Vulcan, air defense artillery).
Given who the CiC is, and his loyalties to our enemies, I hope the GOP looks into this case soon, and rectifies any unfair punishment of our men. This incident stinks.
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