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James Hansen gets grilled by attorney in Omaha after spewing nonsense
wattsupwiththat.com ^ | May 1, 2016 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 05/02/2016 8:45:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From the Powerline blog:

Nebraska attorney Dave Begley is our faithful Omaha correspondent. Dave reports: (video follows)

Friday night in a crowd of 500 to 700 people at Creighton University it appeared that I was not only the only conservative, I was also the only person who was thinking clearly and critically. One of global warming’s oldest and most revered leaders, Dr. James Hansen, spoke prior to his protest at the Berkshire Hathaway shareholders’ meeting on Saturday. I have never heard such nonsense in my life. He gave a rambling and incoherent presentation for nearly two hours. Three times he forgot the question or lost his train of thought. Since the Jesuits taught me logic, I could easily identity his use of the context, bulls-eye, omission and appeal to authority fallacies.

The really shocking thing for me was how many times he contradicted himself and made admissions against interest. If he was under oath and subject to cross examination at a trial, Power Line’s own John Hinderaker would carve him up.

His main assertion was that the ice sheets were melting and it was causing the sea level to rise. He predicted that coastal cities would be under water. No date given. Not even a range of dates. And he never identified man as the cause of this impending disaster and that gradual warming is not just the natural evolution of the Earth over time. One young woman asked him “when Earth will be uninhabitable.” Hansen assured her that would not happen in her lifetime but it was still an emergency. Act now!

The deadline aspect of the CAGW scam is actually quite important. Doomsday is coming but no range of dates is given. If a date is given it is so far off that you will forget that the prediction was made when the date passes or you will be dead due to natural causes. But it is essential for the government to spend other people’s money now to save Mother Earth.

Howler number one: Violence between nations is caused by global warming. Tell that to ISIS. Howler number two: It is too hot to work outside. No lawn mowing this summer by your kids. Howler number three: 10,000 people per day die due to air pollution. I suspect that if that number is accurate, people are not dying from carbon dioxide poisoning. Howler number four: His predictions about future events based upon his models were “as certain at the law of gravity.” Roll over, Newton, tell Einstein the news.

I asked the first question. I reminded the Iowa native that he was in the home city of the Union Pacific Railroad and it has had recent significant layoffs due to a serious decline in coal car loadings. I then asked him, since his models have been mostly wrong for 30 years, why we should believe his models were any more accurate in predicting the disaster that is going to hit when everyone in the room was dead 70 years from now.

He asserted that his predictions were not based upon models but “observable evidence.” False. He dodged, stalled and avoided. He threw out some numbers and put up a slide depicting the Hiroshima bomb explosion. His answer was non-responsive. If I could have cross examined him at length I would have destroyed his answer, but he knew the format.

James Hansen is not impressive at all. If he is the best the Greens have, we conservatives should win this fight. The whole CAGW scam is based upon speculation and the veneer of science. The proposed remedies are costly fantasies. Their only real solution is to tax Americans back into pre-industrial poverty.

(added) Here is part 3 of a four parts video where the question is asked:

Video Link:

Dr. James Hansen at Creighton University April 29, 2016 Part 3 of 4 Q&A

The caption for the video reads:

At the request of Nebraskans for Peace, Dr. James Hansen came to Omaha Nebraska to speak in favor of the shareholder resolution regarding climate change that NFP had placed on the agenda for Berkshire Hathaway shareholders’ meeting. Nebraskans for Peace worked primarily with Dr. Richard Miller at Creighton University to have Dr. Hansen give an informative lecture about his work to stop global warming and climate change from getting much worse.


Full report here h/t to reader QQboss

It should be noted that Berkshire Hathaway shareholders rejected Hansen’s nonsense in a vote.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: berkshirehathaway; climatechange; davebegley; epa; globalwarminghoax; hansen; hockeystick; jameshansen; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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1 posted on 05/02/2016 8:45:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; justa-hairyape; ...
Trump is up BIG in polls in California....

I think the stomping and waving of the Mexican Flags here in Orange County helped him hugely!

So I thought this was interesting too!

2 posted on 05/02/2016 8:51:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Chain the guy to a coal fueled power plant for a year. He has LONG been off the rational, logical basis of Science.


3 posted on 05/02/2016 8:53:20 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where is the Nebraskan organization to Stop Jihad Now! ?


4 posted on 05/02/2016 8:57:23 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Live Free or Die.)
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To: Paladin2

bookmark


5 posted on 05/02/2016 9:08:09 PM PDT by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He asserted that his predictions were not based upon models but “observable evidence.”

In other less highfallutin’ words; anecdote. The true zealots for this cause are generally far more technical and able to cite all manner of measurements that have been taken....over the past 150 or so years (a blink of an eye in climate terms) when instrumentation whose readings might plausibly be believed was available. In every single case I have seen (and that does not mean all of them that exist because I have not read all that exist) ALL of that data has been fudged, rounded, morphed, data-deleted or massaged into AGW-favorable form. Or in the case of East Anglia & Michael Mann, simply lied about.

“James Hansen is not impressive at all. If he is the best the Greens have, we conservatives should win this fight. The whole CAGW scam is based upon speculation and the veneer of science.”

More powerfully (and this why the opposition case seems so hard to impart to the AGW faithful) it is an appeal to the idea that they are on this superior moral pedestal to you and all those evil deniers. They care about the earth and you dont. You want to shove Granny over the cliff into a boiling cauldron of molten lava fueled by racial hatred. So someone like you with your anti-humanist tendencies can never hope to see the enlightened and and altruistic viewpoint they have decided to adopt. It’s a feel good exercise for lazy people who want to do the heavy lifting with their wailing and damn any application of rationality. Because thinking hurts!


6 posted on 05/02/2016 9:11:31 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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To: Paladin2

Good question!


7 posted on 05/02/2016 9:11:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks for the good information.


8 posted on 05/02/2016 9:23:58 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
His main assertion was that the ice sheets were melting ...

Himalayan glaciers growing despite global warming

Record Antarctic ice: Mawson base might have to relocate

"What If All the Ice Melts?" Myths and Realities
(Why melting polar ice is not a threat)

...and it was causing the sea level to rise.

South Pacific sea levels – Best records show little or no rise?!

Testing the Waters
A Report on Sea Levels for the Greening Earth Society


9 posted on 05/02/2016 9:38:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye

Sweet pictures.

Not proof, though, unless it was high tide in both photos. :)


10 posted on 05/02/2016 9:42:42 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: JohnnyP
I guess the articles did nothing to bolster my point.

How about these pictures then?


Fig.16 - The Ross-Lempriere sea level benchmark on the `Isle of the Dead' (made in 1841)
(photo taken by John L. Daly at mean tide, Aug 29, 1999. Benchmark is 50 cm across)


11 posted on 05/02/2016 10:22:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
Very interesting....

You always come here with some good stuff.

That could have me and my bride in the 63 pictures,...more me...and not so far of from today in 2014 ...not as trim however. and a bit older.

Wife passed in 2003 though. and in 63 I wasn't on the beach....got here in 92.

12 posted on 05/02/2016 10:39:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: JohnnyP

If you look at the shadows cast in each picture, both pictures appear to have been taken at the same time of day, ergo the tide level would be the same.


13 posted on 05/02/2016 10:40:32 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: TigersEye

How do these scientists explain it when the ‘sea level’ goes UP in one area, and DOWN in another ?


14 posted on 05/02/2016 10:43:42 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks, EatB! Almost all of my links I got from threads you posted. :-)

My best to you and your bride!


15 posted on 05/02/2016 10:52:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: TigersEye
From Wikipedia:

************************Isle of the Dead (German: Die Toteninsel) is the best-known painting of Swiss Symbolist artist Arnold Böcklin (1827–1901). Prints of the work were very popular in central Europe in the early 20th century—Vladimir Nabokov observed in his novel Despair that they were to be "found in every Berlin home".[1]

Böcklin produced several different versions of the mysterious painting between 1880 and 1886.

16 posted on 05/02/2016 10:56:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: UCANSEE2
Testing the Waters
A Report on Sea Levels for the Greening Earth Society

That article goes a long way towards answering your question. But the best article I know of that explains how sea level is accurately measured, which precisely answers your question, is this one...

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Oh, FWIW, the tides are not the same every day at the same times of the day. In fact they vary quite a bit. Check the Farmer's Almanac for tide charts.

17 posted on 05/02/2016 10:58:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That’s pretty cool. I wonder if it was the painting or the name of it that made everybody want one? Isle of the Dead sounds so mysterious. People were really fascinated with the mysteries of the world in the 1800s. In a more romanticized way than they are now at any rate.


18 posted on 05/02/2016 11:03:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But what does Bill Nye The Science Guy The Mechanical Engineer Guy, think about this? ;-) The fraudulent clown.
19 posted on 05/02/2016 11:06:48 PM PDT by r_barton
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To: r_barton

Was Bill Nye even really a Mechanical Engineer or was he just a Walter White kind of guy who taught it in a high school? He’ll probably make more money in Glowbull Warming than cooking meth though although the product is more of a fraud.


20 posted on 05/02/2016 11:12:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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