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Questions raised after teens drown following police pursuit
13News Now (St Pete) ^ | 4/22/16

Posted on 04/22/2016 12:15:03 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

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For the most part, police officers have no underlying legal duty to save your life. There are a couple exceptions, but dirtbags fleeing into a marsh/pond is certainly not one of them.

Also, since we don’t have all the facts, it might be possible other officers not in view of a dash cam attempted the rescue.


41 posted on 04/22/2016 12:54:41 PM PDT by OCMike
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To: Popman

And what did any of their baby mamas do when these girls were in trouble previously????? did they render any meaningful discipline, tell them not to go out stealing cars, for example??? Any parental admonitions that one of these days, they are going to ruin their lives if they keep this up?? Anything???


42 posted on 04/22/2016 12:56:48 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: goodwithagun

Why refer to them as “girls”? If the article had said “Teens”, we could have stopped reading right there..Instead, we have to read their names in order to connect the dots..


43 posted on 04/22/2016 12:57:54 PM PDT by AFret.
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To: AFret.

Maybe the article calls them girls because it’s unusual for females to get involved with this sort of crime?


44 posted on 04/22/2016 1:01:22 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: MNMom

The way to get someone to release you in the water when they have you in a bear hug death grip is to pinch them hard on the underside of their upper arm.

For some reason, the drowning person will let go and upen up their arms. Quickly turn them away from you in a half spin and put your arm over their shoulder and grip their chest. Talk to them as they will flail. Keep their head above water and encourage them to kick to assist you in swimming to shore.

Preferential to try to use something as a flotation device if at all possible.

*** Disclaimer: classes taken 30 years ago and exact details might be a little fuzzy.


45 posted on 04/22/2016 1:04:01 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: Leaning Right

I agree, I just wish the department had not said they entered the lake and attempted rescue if they did not. If the video doesn’t match statements a jury may give them a settlement that they sure don’t deserve.


46 posted on 04/22/2016 1:06:37 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Iron Munro

With terrific parenting like that it is no surprise they were criminals!


47 posted on 04/22/2016 1:09:42 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Popman

I’m a certified rescue diver and I wouldn’t go into the water in those conditions.


48 posted on 04/22/2016 1:10:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Night Hides Not

gators, snapping turtles, snakes, stuff to get tangled in, stuff to get cut on, nasty germs

not to mention getting tangled in the car IF you found it.


49 posted on 04/22/2016 1:13:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Tragic, but the teen girls brought about their own demise. End of story.

In what universe is it acceptable to commit grand theft?

Answer? No universe.

If their parents beating these kids would have kept them from stealing someone else's valuable property, and ending up dead, then maybe that would have been better...

50 posted on 04/22/2016 1:14:31 PM PDT by sargon (No king but Christ!)
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To: Tammy8
I just wish the department had not said they entered the lake and attempted rescue if they did not.

Good point.

51 posted on 04/22/2016 1:16:12 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"These teen thug criminal girls steal a car, drive recklessly on a police chase, drive off the road into a pond and drown, but the fault is with police who didn’t save them? Really? This is the logic at work here?"

The logic here is that there are many unemployed and near destitute lawyers out there who will encourage the parents of these girls to sue the city for millions on the excellent possibility of a jury of the girls peers finding in family's favor.

52 posted on 04/22/2016 1:16:17 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: mmichaels1970

However, if they publicly lied about what they did,....All they needed to say was “Thought about it, laughed about it, and forgot about it.”


53 posted on 04/22/2016 1:21:09 PM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Impala64ssa
After watching the video and after serving 25 years as an LEO I say the cops did the right thing. I would not have jumped into that water with the vehicle already submerged and no visibility.

With my luck a pesky alligator would have got me.

54 posted on 04/22/2016 1:28:14 PM PDT by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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I was a Paramedic for 5 years. I did some risky things to save people, but there is no way I would have entered a pond at night.


55 posted on 04/22/2016 1:33:28 PM PDT by Gamecock ( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
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To: Impala64ssa
Here's more on their criminal records in this thread:
Sheriff: Three teen girls dead after stolen car crashes into cemetery pond
56 posted on 04/22/2016 1:37:58 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Blue Jays

Jumping into a pristine backyard swimming pool, while dressed, in total darkness, would be unnerving.
Add the alligators, snakes, unseen obstacles, sunken tree limbs, and thick mud...and it becomes futile.


57 posted on 04/22/2016 1:45:12 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Since when?
Unusual for girls to be charged or jailed, yes.
Unusual for girls to steal? Not hardly.


58 posted on 04/22/2016 2:10:46 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
...it’s unusual for females to get involved with this sort of crime...

Actually, in that particular (Ghetto Thug) culture, it's not unusual at all.

Not to mention the encouragement provided by the lack of punishment - 7 previous (known) instances of vehicle theft, and they were still running around loose?

59 posted on 04/22/2016 2:11:44 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Socialism is the political version of AIDS. No Cure. Always Fatal. Contagious If Unprotected.)
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To: Impala64ssa

I know I was not a “perfect” 15-year-old either, but dang! Pretty sure I never even dreamed of stealing a car, much less leading the police on a high-speed chase.


60 posted on 04/22/2016 3:02:24 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Keep calm and Pray on.)
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