NY primary Kasich results [vanity]

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[taxcontrol]

Question for discussion as a thought exercise.

Kasich was already eleminated from the 1,237 delegates needed for a first round nomination. Most voters already knew this. So why did 25% of NY vote for him?

[taxcontrol]

I can see an argument to be made as a spoiler vote against Trump but it would make more sense for those voters to support Cruz as the only remaining viable opposition at the start of the primary.

Why did Kasich do so well?

[Vigilanteman]

So why did 25% of NY vote for him?

Because they are terminally stupid RINOs in a state which will automatically deliver 29 electoral votes to whomever the Democrats decide to run in November.

The last exception to this rule was RWR's 49 state blow-out in 1984.

[showme_the_Glory]

So why did 25% of NY vote for him?

to Screws Cruz.

[outofsalt]

Northeastern voters and especially NY voters, do not want a Southerner and especially an “evangelical” one as their preferred spoiler. Kasich runs more to the left and would appeal to the, “Yankee” point of view vs. Cruz.

[theoilpainter]

Many of us believe he’s the strongest candidate against Clinton, that this election will determine the direction of the Supreme Court for the next two generations and I’d rather have him make those appointments than any of the other four, and that he has a life long conservative record with values much like my own.

[oldbrowser]

Because they are voting for their choice.

It's possible that none of the candidates will reach the 1237 number.
It's not over until it's over. And it's not over yet.

[lodi90]

Why did Kasich do so well?

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Nobody likes Cruz. Kasich is purely an anti-Trump protest vote. Now that Cruz and Kasich are in the same no hoper boat Cruz will crater.

[ripnbang]

Protest vote against Cruz. They knew Trump was going to win anyway.

[Ceebass]

The voters saw Cruz as being just as much eliminated as Kasich.

If they want to protest vote, they’ll give it to someone they prefer, rather than Cruz.

[Verbosus]

Ding, Ding, Ding.
A winner on the very first reply.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Because they know Cubanadians are not eligible

[Moby Grape]

I am trying to figure out how Kasich and “conservative” can be in the same sentence...He promises amnesty for illegals in his first 100 days, if elected president. He supports Common Core...he says the would veto any bill that doesn’t allow so-called trans-genders to use any restroom they want to.

He is NOT a conservative...he is a belt way moderate GOP elite establishment Rhino.

As for polls, general election polls mean nothing at this point. Reagan trailed Carter by 25 points at this stage in 1980.

If Kasich can only win his home state, and comes in forth in Utah behind Rubio who had dropped out, there is NO way he would be Hillary.

[major-pelham]

As Cruz is more exposed over time, despite that you hardly see him but it’s a build up over time, people friggin’ hate him. He’s so full of sh$t, can not say the simplest thing without turnng it into an oration, etc. Some good policy, but painful to listen to or look at. NO ONE (except Amanda Carpenter) wants to have to put up with that man for an extended period of time.

[taxcontrol]

Wow, you just described how many of us here out west feel about Trump.

[taxcontrol]

Please do not try to hijack this thread. If you wish to re-re-re-re-re-fight the eligibility issue one more time, do it on another thread.

[Pollster1]

Here is my view of Kasich:

- Kasich voted for the “Assault” Weapons Ban. https://grabien.com/file.php?id=53463 and as of last year did not regret that vote

- Kasich supported and implemented Obamacare’s Medicare expansion http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-kasich-bible-medicaid_us_56140a54e4b022a4ce5fb1e3

- Kasich supports Amnesty for illegals. http://www.ontheissues.org/John_Kasich.htm

- Kasich dismissively said Christian bakers should “bake the cupcake” and participate in a gay parody of the sacrament of marriage, even if it violates their religious beliefs. https://www.frcaction.org/updatearticle/20160225/kasich-pushes

- Kasich supports Obama’s nominee for the Supreme Court. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kasich-id-consider-nominating-merrick-garland-supreme-court-election-2016/

As far as I can tell, those are not old views or comments taken out of context; they are Kasich’s current and consistent positions. Is there something I posted that is inaccurate or inconsistent with Kasich’s real positions? Are there other issues you consider more important than immigration, the Second Amendment, Obamacare, and religious freedom, where Kasich is right? Even with the Supreme Court, I would expect his nominees to agree with his positions. I’m not sure how that is significantly different from Hillary’s positions.

[Jewbacca]

What was particularly interesting to me was the fact that Bernie almost got as many votes as Trump, Kasich, and Cruz COMBINED.

Hillary got more votes than Trump, Kasich, and Cruz COMBINED.

This tells me there is ZERO chance of Trump being able to be competitive in his own state in the general.

[Smokin' Joe]

That was the alternative non-Trump vote, partly because of the kerfuffle over "New York Values" (we knew what he meant), and partly because the 24/7 smear machine has been grinding away at Cruz support since Iowa. "Lyin'" is neither Mr. Cruz' first name, nor an accurate character assessment, just a Trumpist twitterism. Whining about "stealing" delegates who were up for grabs, glossing over CNN's announcement and blaming Carson's performance in Iowa (and Trump's lack of first place) on Cruz, The whole National Enquirer smear about infidelity (where's the follow-up, or was that just good for one set of primaries?), attacking Cruz over a PAC ad, then attacking his wife, distorting Cruz positions on issues, blaming the actions of 99 other Senators on Cruz for not autonomously passing or repealing what the others would not vote to pass or repeal, blaming Cruz for GOP rules over allocation of delegates after not pursuing the delegates in the first place, even claiming Cruz tried to ban sex toys (sheesh!).

Every smear campaign artfully timed to bring support to a low before an election day or a caucus or a convention.

Artful media manipulation, supported by sources which would have been shredded here in years past, to get a no-record Clinton donor with a past history of buying influence through political donations and support for the "Assault Weapons Ban" nominated for the Republican POTUS ticket (Bizarro World).

Way to control the narrative.

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Saul would be so proud.

[Theodore R.]

Queens, for instance, is a stronghold of Mrs. Bill, even if she have lost it Tuesday in the primary. People there will be loyal to Mrs. Bill on Novembe 8 for sure. Trump has no path to victory in NY against Mrs. Bill; he may do no better there than Romney did. I will be voting for Trump on Nov. 8 but did not on March 1.

[Verginius Rufus]

In the early primaries when there were lots of choices Kasich was getting 5 or 10 percent of the vote, so part of his vote could be voters who actually like him, but most of it is probably from voters who don’t like either Trump or Cruz, but had no one else to vote for but Kasich.