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Chauvet Cave: The Most Accurate Timeline Yet Of Who Used The Cave And When
Science Now ^ | Tuesday, April 12, 2016 | Deborah Netburn

Posted on 04/18/2016 8:22:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

The cave, declared a UNESCO World Heritage site two years ago, was discovered in the south of France in 1994...

Now, scientists have assembled more than 250 radiocarbon dates made from rock art samples, animal bones and the remains of charcoal used by humans... The newly synthesized data suggest the first period of human occupation lasted from 37,000 to 33,500 years ago.

The second prehistoric occupation began 31,000 to 28,000 years ago and lasted for 2,000 to 3,000 years, the researchers wrote...

The two groups, separated by millenniums, had no connection with each other, they said. The first round of human occupation was likely longer than the second. It is also when most of the drawings were done.

Bears, which also left their mark on the cave walls through scratches over and under the art, appear to have used the cave from 48,500 to 33,300 years ago.

The authors were also able to determine that the end of each human occupancy of the caves coincided with rockfalls that may have sealed off the entrance to the cave, hiding it from humans for thousands of years.

The authors said the chronology of who used the cave and when will continue to become more precise as more data points are added to their model. But still, many questions remain. For example: Are the red paintings as old as the black paintings?

"Only the black paintings have been dated," Quiles and Geneste wrote. "The dating technique for the red paintings has yet to be developed."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: archaeology; bear; bears; cave; caveart; cavedrawings; cavepainting; cavepaintings; chauvet; france; godsgravesglyphs; losangelestimes; macroetymology; paleosigns
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A bison painted on the walls of the Chauvet cave in southern France. New research creates the best timeline yet of who frequented the caves and when. (French Ministry of Culture and Communication)

A bison painted on the walls of the Chauvet cave in southern France. New research creates the best timeline yet of who frequented the caves and when. (French Ministry of Culture and Communication)

1 posted on 04/18/2016 8:22:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

2 posted on 04/18/2016 8:22:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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Fancy danged keywords, unlikely to have mistaken entries:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/paleosigns/index

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/macroetymology/index


3 posted on 04/18/2016 8:31:04 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Reminds me of that bull in Picasso’s Guernica.


4 posted on 04/18/2016 8:33:42 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1583943/posts?page=16#16


5 posted on 04/18/2016 8:36:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Beowulf9

Yes, except that Picasso couldn’t paint. :’)


6 posted on 04/18/2016 8:37:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Cave men get a pass, they have no forebears to show them the way.

But how to explain Picasso?


7 posted on 04/18/2016 8:39:47 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: SunkenCiv

Macroetymology, I learn a new word every day.


8 posted on 04/18/2016 8:40:00 AM PDT by rdl6989
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New dating puts cave art in the age of Neanderthals
post-gazette | June 15, 2012 | John Noble Wilford
Posted on 06/15/2012 9:26:33 AM PDT by JoeProBono
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2895657/posts


9 posted on 04/18/2016 8:43:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Beowulf9

Patrons with more money than brains?


10 posted on 04/18/2016 8:53:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Beowulf9
But how to explain Picasso?

Paging Mr. Coholic, Mr. Al Coholic. Seriously, the only thing worse than a Picasso is someone actually buying a Picasso. Okay, that's painting with a broad brush, but really, if it looks like I could have painted it, it ain't art.

11 posted on 04/18/2016 9:15:33 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (I got nothin'.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Picasso might agree with you.

“Picasso said after viewing the Paleolithic bull paintings.

What he was reputed to say was “After Altamira, all is decadence.” Altamira was the first major discovery of paleolithic cave painting, found in northern Spain in the 1880s.”


12 posted on 04/18/2016 9:16:58 AM PDT by Varda
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To: rdl6989
Macroetymology, I learn a new word every day.

Me, too: millenniums. I guess Latin isn't a "thing" anymore.

13 posted on 04/18/2016 9:25:01 AM PDT by LimitedPowers (Citizenship is not a Hate Crime!)
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To: Beowulf9

http://duffandnonsense.typepad.com/duff_nonsense/2012/08/ok-you-found-it-now-go-lose-it-again-quick.html


14 posted on 04/18/2016 9:34:20 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: Varda

Among artists active in the 20th century, I really only like a few — the realistic painters (and some of the PRB-associated painters) at the very beginning of the century, the relative handful of realistic and pin-up painters, and Salvador Dali. :’)


15 posted on 04/18/2016 9:43:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: LimitedPowers; rdl6989

Millenniums is also considered correct; Latin isn’t what we’re using here. Regardless, I didn’t write the article, just excerpted it.


16 posted on 04/18/2016 9:45:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Jamestown1630

Ooh, I liked the lead quote on that page, just nicked it for later.


17 posted on 04/18/2016 9:46:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I wonder if John Boner lent his expertise in caves to this project.


18 posted on 04/18/2016 9:49:47 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Examples of what Picasso was doing very early, before he caved in to all the nonsense:

http://mesosyn.com/pp-early.html


19 posted on 04/18/2016 10:29:40 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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To: SunkenCiv

I like realists also but IMO Picasso was very talented. I do appreciate his “Blue” period. Dali was a real character and I liked that he made fun of himself in TV commercials.


20 posted on 04/18/2016 11:20:49 AM PDT by Varda
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