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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS “STEALING” DELEGATES
http://beartotheright.com ^ | April 5, 2016 | Gary Aminoff

Posted on 04/05/2016 8:30:44 AM PDT by Lucky9teen

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To: Enlightened1

How specifically, and even factually, is this tied to Cruz, in any way?

That’s rather laughable that you think it does...


61 posted on 04/05/2016 10:39:34 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (God's blessing has been on America from the very beginning, and I believe God isn't done yet. TCruz)
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To: Lucky9teen

Many are missing the point, mostly Trump fans who are intentionally missing the point.

The writer effectively describes the system in place. Not one created for this primary campaign or for Ted Cruz.

There is a simple logic to unbinding the delegates: if a candidate comes to the convention short of the majority and a balloting process is invoked, if the first ballot(s) do not yet provide a candidate with a majority of delegates, then something has to give or you will be voting over and over again with the same outcome.

By unbinding delegates, they can coalesce around a candidate who can cobble together a majority. Part of that process is-yes, as unbelievable as it seems-politics! Each candidate has the same opportunities to lobby delegates to be prepared to switch if they become unbound.

A possible analogy is an option contract. As the buyer, I have the option to buy. If I either don’t or can’t exercise the option and get the property, the seller becomes “unbound” to me and can accept other offers. Nothing illegal or even unethical in either scenario. Voters who might feel cheated can only feel that way if they are ignorant of how the process works. You got to cast a vote for your candidate with built-in rules how and when your vote would ultimately count. There were not guarantees otherwise when you case your vote. Get over it.


62 posted on 04/05/2016 10:41:14 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter

Typical, the ‘devil’ is in the details... And Cruz the serpent intends to strip Trump voters of their Constitution rights. I would NOT support Trump IF he did this to Cruz voters. Big difference in Trump supporters and Cruz supporters... whatever it takes.


63 posted on 04/05/2016 10:50:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: House Atreides
re: your #47


Many FReepers DO understand the process.

Cruz and his pacs and his GFs deliberately
lied against BOTH Dr. Carson and Mr. Trump.


The blood is always on your own hands,
even if you have someone else do the killing for you.
Any leader who forgets that will inevitably become a tyrant.
–Duke Leto Atreides

64 posted on 04/05/2016 10:52:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Fantasywriter

Can you give a source for this information? My father and his 11 brothers and sisters were adult children of alcoholics. All of them put themselves thru college, established successful businesses or chose careers of service, raised happy, well-adjusted children, contributed to their communities and churches. My father was a pastor. Built 24 new churches in his career. He translated his beliefs into actions his entire life.

Forgive me if I am a little dubious? Do you have some sort of personal access to Cruz’s mental health records? Or do you merely assume that anyone who had alcoholic parents fits your description?


65 posted on 04/05/2016 11:02:41 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Just mythoughts

Reading is Fundamental. Reading comprehension is even more fundamental. Try it.


66 posted on 04/05/2016 11:08:58 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: JewishRighter
Reading is Fundamental. Reading comprehension is even more fundamental. Try it.

Yes, fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is as well ' f u n d a m e n t a l'.... How do you think I know about the lies and deception. Reap the whirlwind.

67 posted on 04/05/2016 11:26:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Please take a moment to read the constitution.

It’s shorter than yo think.

When you get to the part about party primaries take a few notes and get back to us with your findings.

Dint but the hype my FRiend. Cruz will protect your rights. He always has.


68 posted on 04/05/2016 11:57:43 AM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Outlaw76

I think my phone has gone mental with the spelling... My apologies for the eye strains.


69 posted on 04/05/2016 12:01:20 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Outlaw76
Please take a moment to read the constitution. It’s shorter than yo think. When you get to the part about party primaries take a few notes and get back to us with your findings. Dint but the hype my FRiend. Cruz will protect your rights. He always has.

You have bought the deception. First Cruz is a natural born Canadian and is not Constitutionally eligible to hold the office of president. And if you are a natural born US citizen then you are selling out your birthright. DO not be itching when you loose your blessing.... Read what God had to say about Esau selling his birthright for a 'RED' bowl of pottage (lentils) God made sure Esau lost his blessing and had it recorded two times that God hated Esau.

70 posted on 04/05/2016 12:03:01 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Roses0508

I bet if I felt the urge I could dig something up on the children of slumlords.

I don’t have that urge because I’m not a shrink and I didn’t sleep at a holiday inn last night.


71 posted on 04/05/2016 12:04:37 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Lucky9teen
Jeez. What about Honesty101? It gets thrown out during elections? Just because something is "legal" doesn't mean it is moral or ethical or even intelligent. Cops take people's cash and pocket it. It's legal. It's also criminal. Bush hands billions to Wall St. It's legal. And also criminal. So, maybe the rules do allow such things. They are also immoral. That's what happens when good people do nothing and evil looting criminals take over the legislature, courts, executive and bureaucracies. You get a plethora of legal but criminal laws and procedures.

So maybe "delegate" stealing is legal. It's still immoral and delegates who go along with it a treasonous towards the principles embodied in any Republic. So, Pubbies, by all means play your degraded stinking "legal" games.

Excuse me, but did you say "plethora"?


72 posted on 04/05/2016 12:05:44 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand. If you are French raise both hands)
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To: Lucky9teen

Define it any way you want to. Watch what happens if they do it. Can you say, Hillary, Loretta, rat House and rat Senate.


73 posted on 04/05/2016 12:10:53 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Just mythoughts

Thank you for caring about me.

I’m still not sure what any of that has to do with the trump fan’s constitutional rights.

Since you seek to inject religion:
Remember it is trump who will not ask the father for forgiveness.
Read Mark 16:14-15.

I pray for him and hope he finds the Lord in the short time he has left on the earth.


74 posted on 04/05/2016 12:15:40 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Seruzawa

On every thread where I’ve seen the word “moral”. I’ve asked posters to explain how it is amoral. I have yet to receive an answer.

Since you also bring up ethics, please explain how it is unethical.

Remember, words have meaning not just the emotional value you place on them.


75 posted on 04/05/2016 12:18:43 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Outlaw76
Thank you for caring about me. I’m still not sure what any of that has to do with the trump fan’s constitutional rights. Since you seek to inject religion: Remember it is trump who will not ask the father for forgiveness. Read Mark 16:14-15. I pray for him and hope he finds the Lord in the short time he has left on the earth.

God is in control regardless of what any of His children believe. I do not have 'religion' I have Christianity. Trump was wiser than that old serpent who tried to bait him into a public confessional. Now you keep carrying the devil's water.

76 posted on 04/05/2016 12:18:47 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If there isn’t a Trump\Cruz ticket Cruz and the non-Cruz person they put in loses to everyone else. Quote me, then the GOP gets dismantled IMO.


77 posted on 04/05/2016 12:21:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Just mythoughts

You may not realize it, but your ability to stand up for what you believe in is pretty much at the Westborro Baptist level.

It does not do you any credit and it sounds like someone pretending to know how Christians think.

One candidate is still receiving profit from dens of vice. Tell me, who holds the devil’s water?


78 posted on 04/05/2016 12:32:06 PM PDT by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: mlo

Cruz pulling what he did in Iowa elsewhere only gets him a job quicker at Goldmas Sachs.


79 posted on 04/05/2016 12:34:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Roses0508

Mail.


80 posted on 04/05/2016 12:37:47 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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