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California’s pension debt puts it $175.1 billion in the red
sacbee.com ^ | 03/22/2016 | DAN WALTERS

Posted on 03/22/2016 6:11:09 PM PDT by massmike

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To: onedoug

CALPERS is my “crack”.


21 posted on 03/22/2016 7:40:10 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

sounds like we have the same dealer


22 posted on 03/22/2016 7:46:36 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: windcliff

“All I want is ma’ share!”


23 posted on 03/22/2016 7:51:42 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: MSF BU

“It would be nice if there were some means of bankruptcy or reorganization for the state.”

There is. It’s called the 1867-68 Reconstruction Act.

Part I - Congress declares the state in insurrection, sends in a military governor (typically a combat-tested general) and troops and removes the governor and state legislature.

Part II - The military governor tells the people to elect a new governor and state legislature to fix their screwed up state.

Part III - In the meantime, the state loses its entire congressional delegation until the voters elect a state government that follows the US Constitution and protects all the rights of it citizens.

Part IV - All the seditionists are either arrested or given one week to leave the United States forever.

It’s all outlined in Thaddeuas Stevens’ Reconstruction Act and its various 19th century updates.


24 posted on 03/22/2016 7:55:15 PM PDT by sergeantdave ( If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: doldrumsforgop

That is the long-term problem; the short-term problem is that current residents/businesses get taxed up the wazoo with no return on it - the current revenues have to pay workers who retired decades ago, and nothing is left to hire current workers or fix stuff.

NJ is living through this now (for the same reason), and people & employers are fleeing. Who would move here, just to inherit a huge IOU?


25 posted on 03/23/2016 3:59:37 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

“NJ is living through this now (for the same reason), and people & employers are fleeing. Who would move here, just to inherit a huge IOU?”

That’s why I think states rights are paramount.
A state should have the opportunity to do what it thinks is best for it, not the federal govt.

If a state chooses to undermine its citizens, those citizens will then flee for other states or usurp those in authority and make things right.

If the federal govt is in charge, then there is no escape.

Both NJ and CA are great states, but there must be a reckoning at some point for the past liberal policies.


26 posted on 03/23/2016 6:21:39 AM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: windcliff

Smells like it anyway.


27 posted on 03/23/2016 6:26:46 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: doldrumsforgop

The problem is that to keep populations in those states (and keep the government caste - teachers, cops, politicians) working, federal programs (Section 8, food stamps/SNAP, SS disability, etc.) are used to take wealth from other states’ taxpayers and funnel them into the dying socialist utopias...


28 posted on 03/23/2016 6:02:52 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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and that problem is solved by retaining the control of the purse at state levels, not federal.

In no manner shape or form should a state be required to subsidize another state that makes bad choices.

Let that state with bad choices die a slow death.


29 posted on 03/24/2016 6:14:38 AM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: doldrumsforgop

I couldn’t agree more; the Dems are erasing distinctions between states because their tax & spend suffers when employers and industrious people flee Red (communist) states for more business/taxpayer-friendly ones. They are left with the bottom of society/dregs that will never produce anything while demanding everything.


30 posted on 03/24/2016 10:37:41 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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