Posted on 02/09/2016 6:01:09 AM PST by zek157
Oh Oh...
There's a clean question on the table regarding dual citizenship for persons born in Canada prior to 1977 (when they changed their law to officially recognize dual nationality.)
Prior to that date, with few exceptions, you could not hold dual nationality with Canada. In other words the very act of "renouncing" Canadian Citizenship means that Cruz never held US citizenship at birth because his parents had to declare his nationality at the time he was born.
There may be exceptions that were available at the time but the law now is immaterial.
The only material fact is what the law was then, in 1970, in Canada when Cruz was born.
If his parents declared US for him then he had nothing to renounce and he has a document called a Consular Report of Birth Abroad.
This is the legal equivalent of a US Birth Certificate and Cruz either has one from the time of his birth or he does not. If he does not then he is not a US Citizen as he was never naturalized by his own admission and at birth the nation in which he was born did not recognize dual nationality.
Where is that document Cruz? Your mother's birth certificate is immaterial. What matters is whether you were declared a Canadian or US Citizen at birth and what documentation you have to prove it.
You see, in 1970 there was no "and" option.
Cruz either has that Consular Report of Birth Abroad, which is his legal proof of US Citizenship just as my Birth Certificate is mine, or he doesn't and he's not a citizen at all as his parents declared his citizenship as Canadian and the land he were born in prohibited dual nationality at the time.
If he doesn't have that document, of course, there's a little problem with the office Senator Cruz holds now, say much less his running for President.
Even as a serviceman in Europe 1975 when I was born, I got a Consular Report of Birth certificate for my son - whose mother was a Czech.
I meant when my son was born.
Yup. Been saying this since the start of this. If he’s a U.S. citizen, then produce the document saying so.
bkmk
PING
Canadian Law means nothing. Silly.
Only US Law. Cruz was a US Citizen at birth, no naturalization needed, a natural born citizen.
I don’t understand these candidates. If you can shut people up, just produce the documentation required and all the talk goes away....unless you do not have it.
Ohmygosh. Cruzer heads are gonna’ explode.
In 1975 I could not hold dual citizenship..
before I was naturalized as an American citizen I had to denounce my allegiance to my birth country, New Zealand, another British country...
I’ve been saying this for a year. There should be a paper trail in both the states and in Canada.
Birthers!!
Exactly, Canadian law means nothing whatsoever. If Costa Rica wants to grant citizenship of any child born in Wichita KS. That has nothing to do with U.S. citizenship.
what is canada, but an extension of the US... so who cares...
GO CRUZ. eh!
Isn’t there an issue of Trump’s mother being a UK citizen?
Do a little research on that. Understand dual citizenship and choice at 18 wasn’t an option at that time.
This is one of the big things that scares me about Cruz. I can’t imagine that the founders intended ‘natural born’ to be so loosely defined. Two parents, one American, one cuban, move to canada and live there not working for the US military or embassy. Then they have a baby. They stay there for four more years and then move back to America. He maintains canadian dual citizenship for decades and then renounces it right before runnng for president.
Does this not bother you hard core Cruz supporters, who like me, believe in the constitution and our laws????????
I guess the real question is “what was the US law at the time of Cruz’s out of country birth”?
Canada’s law would apply to his Canadian status.
The mom and pop have had children in various countries. Mom had one in England and one in
Canada while pop had one in Canada and two in the USA.
Precisely. Canada’s law means nothing in the context of whether the US recognizes Cruz’ status as a US citizen.
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