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Cruz's Consular Report of Birth
Market-ticker.org ^ | 2/9/2015 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 02/09/2016 6:01:09 AM PST by zek157

Oh Oh...

There's a clean question on the table regarding dual citizenship for persons born in Canada prior to 1977 (when they changed their law to officially recognize dual nationality.)

Prior to that date, with few exceptions, you could not hold dual nationality with Canada. In other words the very act of "renouncing" Canadian Citizenship means that Cruz never held US citizenship at birth because his parents had to declare his nationality at the time he was born.

There may be exceptions that were available at the time but the law now is immaterial.

The only material fact is what the law was then, in 1970, in Canada when Cruz was born.

If his parents declared US for him then he had nothing to renounce and he has a document called a Consular Report of Birth Abroad.

This is the legal equivalent of a US Birth Certificate and Cruz either has one from the time of his birth or he does not. If he does not then he is not a US Citizen as he was never naturalized by his own admission and at birth the nation in which he was born did not recognize dual nationality.

Where is that document Cruz? Your mother's birth certificate is immaterial. What matters is whether you were declared a Canadian or US Citizen at birth and what documentation you have to prove it.

You see, in 1970 there was no "and" option.

Cruz either has that Consular Report of Birth Abroad, which is his legal proof of US Citizenship just as my Birth Certificate is mine, or he doesn't and he's not a citizen at all as his parents declared his citizenship as Canadian and the land he were born in prohibited dual nationality at the time.

If he doesn't have that document, of course, there's a little problem with the office Senator Cruz holds now, say much less his running for President.


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This should be easy to clear up. Where is the Consular Report of Birth Abroad? It either exist, or doesn't.
1 posted on 02/09/2016 6:01:09 AM PST by zek157
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Even as a serviceman in Europe 1975 when I was born, I got a Consular Report of Birth certificate for my son - whose mother was a Czech.


2 posted on 02/09/2016 6:03:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I meant when my son was born.


3 posted on 02/09/2016 6:03:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: zek157

Yup. Been saying this since the start of this. If he’s a U.S. citizen, then produce the document saying so.


4 posted on 02/09/2016 6:03:50 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: zek157

bkmk


5 posted on 02/09/2016 6:04:31 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled..e.by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern - Chesterton)
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To: Jane Long; GOPJ; Grampa Dave; RitaOK; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; MinuteGal; ...

PING


6 posted on 02/09/2016 6:04:59 AM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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To: zek157

Canadian Law means nothing. Silly.

Only US Law. Cruz was a US Citizen at birth, no naturalization needed, a natural born citizen.


7 posted on 02/09/2016 6:05:07 AM PST by ziravan (Buck the Establishment.)
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To: zek157

I don’t understand these candidates. If you can shut people up, just produce the documentation required and all the talk goes away....unless you do not have it.


8 posted on 02/09/2016 6:06:31 AM PST by dforest
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To: zek157

Ohmygosh. Cruzer heads are gonna’ explode.


9 posted on 02/09/2016 6:07:15 AM PST by grania
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To: zek157

In 1975 I could not hold dual citizenship..

before I was naturalized as an American citizen I had to denounce my allegiance to my birth country, New Zealand, another British country...


10 posted on 02/09/2016 6:08:04 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: zek157

I’ve been saying this for a year. There should be a paper trail in both the states and in Canada.


11 posted on 02/09/2016 6:08:07 AM PST by stormer
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To: zek157

Birthers!!


12 posted on 02/09/2016 6:08:59 AM PST by twister881
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To: zek157
Yet another idiotic Trumpbot birther post?
The moment Ted Cruz was born to a natural born American mother, Ted Cruz became a natural born American citizen. I don't care if he was born on Mars. His natural born American mother makes him a natural born American citizen from birth until he dies. End of story.
13 posted on 02/09/2016 6:09:17 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: ziravan

Exactly, Canadian law means nothing whatsoever. If Costa Rica wants to grant citizenship of any child born in Wichita KS. That has nothing to do with U.S. citizenship.


14 posted on 02/09/2016 6:10:50 AM PST by sox_the_cat
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To: zek157

what is canada, but an extension of the US... so who cares...

GO CRUZ. eh!


15 posted on 02/09/2016 6:11:00 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: zek157

Isn’t there an issue of Trump’s mother being a UK citizen?


16 posted on 02/09/2016 6:11:19 AM PST by JJ_Folderol (Just my opinion and only worth what you paid for it.)
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To: ziravan

Do a little research on that. Understand dual citizenship and choice at 18 wasn’t an option at that time.


17 posted on 02/09/2016 6:11:36 AM PST by zek157
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To: zek157

This is one of the big things that scares me about Cruz. I can’t imagine that the founders intended ‘natural born’ to be so loosely defined. Two parents, one American, one cuban, move to canada and live there not working for the US military or embassy. Then they have a baby. They stay there for four more years and then move back to America. He maintains canadian dual citizenship for decades and then renounces it right before runnng for president.

Does this not bother you hard core Cruz supporters, who like me, believe in the constitution and our laws????????


18 posted on 02/09/2016 6:12:07 AM PST by bigtoona (Lose on amnesty, socialism cemented in place forever Trump is the only hope.)
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To: zek157

I guess the real question is “what was the US law at the time of Cruz’s out of country birth”?
Canada’s law would apply to his Canadian status.

The mom and pop have had children in various countries. Mom had one in England and one in
Canada while pop had one in Canada and two in the USA.


19 posted on 02/09/2016 6:12:16 AM PST by deport
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To: SmokingJoe

Precisely. Canada’s law means nothing in the context of whether the US recognizes Cruz’ status as a US citizen.


20 posted on 02/09/2016 6:12:18 AM PST by jagusafr
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