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Can Cruz legally be president? Ivy League scholars debate
Virgina Pilot online ^ | 2/5/16 | COLLIN BINKLEY

Posted on 02/06/2016 1:47:14 AM PST by RC one

Edited on 02/06/2016 5:34:58 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

BOSTON (AP) — Two legal scholars squared off in a public debate on Friday to settle whether Republican Ted Cruz is eligible to become president. Spoiler alert: They didn't settle it.

But the debate at Harvard Law School underscored that conflicting interpretations of the U.S. Constitution can produce different answers. The question has been in the national spotlight since Republican rival Donald Trump suggested that Cruz, who was born in Canada to an American mother, isn't legally qualified to be president.


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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: 2016electionbias; academicbias; birtherism; birthers; blamecanada; canadian; cruz; doublestandard; naturalborncitizen; naughtyteacherslist; obamawasntvetted; repositorycruz
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Whatever your opinion may be, it is true that all of the 44 presidents to date have been born in one of the 50 U.S. states.

In 226 years, there has never been a single foreign born President.

Before you say it, Chester A. Arthur is listed as being born in Vermont and the 9 Presidents born as natural born British Subjects were born in what became US states.

1 posted on 02/06/2016 1:47:15 AM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

Looking at that map, it’s amazing how many states that presidents were not born in. It’s amazing, by now, we haven’t had a president from all 13 original states.


2 posted on 02/06/2016 1:50:14 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: r_barton

Careful what you wish for. Sometimes there are unintended consequences. I am always apologizing to my out of state acquaintances about Jimmy Carter.


3 posted on 02/06/2016 1:55:53 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: r_barton

What I find interesting is that there has never, in 226 years, been an openly foreign born President. Arthur is likely the exception but he had the sense to hide his illegitimacy. This is 226 years of historical precedent that Ted Cruz is attempting to undo.


4 posted on 02/06/2016 1:56:32 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one

The argument for Cruz stated that laws since the Constitution have changed what is written in the Constitution. Silly me. I thought only amendments could change the Constitution.


5 posted on 02/06/2016 1:57:16 AM PST by grania
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To: Gaffer

Two good things about Jimmy Carter.

-It was only one term.
-His being so bad led even more people vote for Reagan.


6 posted on 02/06/2016 1:59:51 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: RC one

I agree. I don’t think we should start now.


7 posted on 02/06/2016 2:01:39 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: r_barton

I remember going to the polls here in Georgia that first time. The atmosphere was positively ELECTRIC! You could smell the ozone all around. Longest time I ever had to stand in line to vote.


8 posted on 02/06/2016 2:01:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RC one

To my mind, that number would be 219. I am still not convinced by the data released.


9 posted on 02/06/2016 2:03:47 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RC one

The dems have demonstrated that it really doesn’t matter under “obamacare”.


10 posted on 02/06/2016 2:04:19 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: RC one

Best explanation I’ve found!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruz-is-not-eligible-to-be-president/2016/01/12/1484a7d0-b7af-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html


11 posted on 02/06/2016 2:06:45 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans!)
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To: RC one

YAAAAAWWWWWNNNN


12 posted on 02/06/2016 2:07:32 AM PST by OhioBuckeye (not voting for Trump...not now...not EVER -- Cruz 2016!)
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To: RC one

Natural Born Citizen = born on the soil of the country to two citizen parents.

Ted Cruz fails both requirements.

So did Obama, but who cares about that musty old parchment any more? Isn’t it a living Constitution anyway?


13 posted on 02/06/2016 2:10:46 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: OhioBuckeye
Citizens are either natural-born or naturalized. One who is born in the United States or under its jurisdiction is a natural-born citizen without reference to the nationality of his parents. Their presence here constitutes a temporary allegiance, sufficient to make a child a citizen.

Theodore Dwight, Edward Dwight, Commentaries on the law of persons and personal property, pg. 125 (1894)

14 posted on 02/06/2016 2:13:30 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: hoosiermama

I posted Mary McManaman’s article here the day she wrote it. I agree. It provides a very clear explanation.


15 posted on 02/06/2016 2:15:02 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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SOS....different day.


16 posted on 02/06/2016 2:16:19 AM PST by OhioBuckeye (not voting for Trump...not now...not EVER -- Cruz 2016!)
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To: hoosiermama

If Ted Cruz is not eligible the good news is that Rubio is a sure bet to not be

If Ted Cruz bounces Rubio he’ll have done a great service to the country


17 posted on 02/06/2016 2:18:44 AM PST by Fai Mao (Just a tropical gardiner chatting with friends)
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To: Windflier

That seems to have been the standard for the past 226 years.


18 posted on 02/06/2016 2:19:37 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: RC one

I post it every time there is a discussion. It opens many eyes.
Really needs as much exposure as possible.
Have you been following the ballot challenge in Illinois.
First SoS, then election board who asked their legal consultant to review. Looks like its starts thru federal court system next. A Carson advocate started it -—reason CRUZ attacked him in Iowa???? Possibly????


19 posted on 02/06/2016 2:20:35 AM PST by hoosiermama (Make America Great Again by uniting Great Americans!)
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To: OhioBuckeye

You and teddy better get used to it like Obama did. It is never going to go away. ever. never ever.


20 posted on 02/06/2016 2:20:52 AM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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