Posted on 02/02/2016 1:30:21 AM PST by LibWhacker
The universe is an infinitely cold dark dead place with billions of swirling balls of hydrogen plasma sprinkled around for our nighttime amusement. Thank you God.
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This is not a bad thing. If something is worth doing it is worth the use of non government resources.
“since we’ve found evidence of microbial life on mars... “
Completely untrue.
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I have problems with that statement, too.
the question isn’t whether or not there is life elsewhere in the universe. since the universe is so vast, there MUST be life elsewhere.
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One can also use that logic to say that the set of all odd numbers is so vast that there must be even numbers in it, too.
My thoughts exactly.
Tim Taylor is still searching for the pair of ducks.
That’s my premise also. Will go further to say this - in our local neighborhood, there is maybe one star per square light year. However, if we move into the center of this galaxy, we find not one star but thousands or millions per square light year. In this case interstellar travel is much easier to achieve.
We don’t hear anything from that area because there is too much background noise if a civilization used radio.
There is another point - energy. Where we live is relatively energy deficient, but at the center there is an unimaginable amount of energy radiating from the accretion disk in the center as it consumes stellar material - a great place to live or move to, if you need lots of energy to ‘do your thing.’
Evidence, not proof
Only other one I could think of was Obama axing the D.C. charter schools.
Anything to impede greater liberty and understanding.
This may be the first SA article I’ve seen in years which didn’t somehow graft in mention of human caused global warming, err I mean climate change. I halted a decades long subscription to the magazine over that issue. As far as the feasibility of interstellar travel being Fermi’s point and not the existence of other civilizations, that does make sense. Fermi had a mind which could come close to grasping how physically vast space truly is, the limits the physics of this universe place on physical velocity, and the energy that would be required to bend space time to our will.
From you post #20:
There is evidence the Eastern bunny is real but no proof.So much for my little joke. :(
And if he did, then they wouldn't be any more advanced than we are so it's going to be a very, very long time before we ever meet each other........if we ever do.
See James Clerk Maxwell. The man who changed everything (Amazon).
He devised 200 field equations which no one understood until a self taught mama’s boy named Oliver Heaviside read them, change four of the field equations to vector equations and discarded the rest because they were “abominations”. From those four comes EVERYTHING we know about the electromagnetic spectrum - both Tesla and Einstein relied on Maxwell. Tesla tried to actually build things from Maxwell (free energy). Since then no one has paid the 200 field equations any mind.
Imagine an alien civilization where those same equations are not discarded or changed, but embraced and worked to the fullest. No one would need radio because communication over any distance is instantaneous, no one would need to make energy because it is freely available in unlimited quantities, no one would need space ships because going from point A to point B is just a matter of stepping across to it.
Imagine ...
They all require faith in the unknown.
The Drake Equation is ridiculous and doesn’t contain use any real facts.
True. That is because the phrase is really a shorthand version of the Drake “Equation” which, in turn, is itself just a very high level approximation of an equation human beings don’t even know all the terms for at present.
Properly, it should be:
The Universe is so vast ... there MUST be life elsewhere.”
The “...” representing, of course, all the various circumstances necessary for life (however you care to define it) to develop.
This, in itself, is a far less stringent condition for success than requiring the development of a spacefaring civilization in our galaxy and its explorers reaching the Earth during a time when mankind exists and is sufficiently advanced in its own right to properly evaluate their arrival. That achievement, to start out with, requires the development of life (and its elaboration) in at least TWO places vice one.
Maybe they are all on the Andromeda Galaxy and are on their way here.
It certainly looks like we are headed in that direction.
We must be using similar remotes.
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