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Flint water crisis: Email release do little to ease pressure on Michigan Gov. Snyder
CNN ^ | 1/21/16 | Berlinger

Posted on 01/21/2016 5:01:03 AM PST by DBCJR

Saying the people of Flint deserve the truth about the city's water, Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has released more than 250 pages of his emails that relate to the crisis. But the document dump Wednesday did little to ease the predicament he finds himself in. With each passing day, the chorus for him to step down has grown louder because the water debacle unfolded under his watch. "So far, all roads lead to Lansing when it comes to accountability," Democratic U.S. Rep. Dan Kildee, who represents the Flint area, said Wednesday. The emails help show, at least in part, how officials responded to the growing concerns about toxic lead contamination in Flint's tap water.

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KEYWORDS: epa; erinbrockovich; flint; goldkingmine; lead; michigan; navajonation; snyder; water
I don't know who had responsibility for making the decision to switch from lake water to river water, seems like that would have been local, but the Governor seems to be getting targeted for it, possibly because he is Republican. In a state that is so economically depressed, they do have to make some tough, cost-saving decisions. But someone did not do their homework on this decision. It seems like an EPA step was missed or the EPA must have failed, one of the two.

Now they are making this about race, since the area affected, Flint, MI, has a high prevalence of minorities. However, that rationale fails to consider the situation. Flint is a depressed city, with extremely high unemployment. Their tax-base is almost nothing, the reason for taking cost-saving measures. This was a bad idea but it wasn't about race.

We need to identify what person or body made the decision. That entity bares responsibility for this. We need to investigate what EPA regulations might have been violated, or what failures the EPA may have been responsible for. It kind of looks like certain people are trying to turn this into an election year propaganda opportunity instead of considering the causes and responsibility.

1 posted on 01/21/2016 5:01:03 AM PST by DBCJR
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
The governor appointed an unqualified idiot but the EPA seemed quite happy to ignore the issue till it became useful to the democrats.

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2 posted on 01/21/2016 5:06:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: DBCJR
Water tests are easy chemistry. This shouldn't have happened and there must have been plenty of tests.

Someone was fed some bad info.....and someone knew about it before the screaming started.

3 posted on 01/21/2016 5:07:32 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: DBCJR

The democrat Flint mayor approved with a 7-1 vote from the all democrat city council. The Obama EPA sat on it. Flint has been broke and under receivership and an appointed manager. It’s just a little Detroit and another city ruined by democrat control that taxed away the job producers. You can’t lay this at the Governor’s feet. He was a late invitee to the game. Don’t let Michael Moore dictate the narrative here. He doesn’t even live in Flint. He lives in a pricey suburb.


4 posted on 01/21/2016 5:08:22 AM PST by CWW (Pray for God's Protection!)
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To: DBCJR

Finding out who is really responsible is what the media SHOULD be doing...but isn’t

The Governor IS getting targeted for it, ABSOLUTELY because he is Republican. The media have their preferred guilty party and will not be asking any more questions.

It only makes sense when you realize that the Flint mayor at the time is a democrat and the Fed agency involved is Obama’s EPA. There is absolutely no doubt that the media, Hillary, Bernie, et al would not have targeted the gov for this were he a dhimicrat.


5 posted on 01/21/2016 5:09:01 AM PST by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: CWW

Dang it. Missed being first by that much.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 5:09:48 AM PST by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: DBCJR

Why aren’t the BLACK MAYOR and BLACK CITY COUNCIL responsible for their own disastrous decision to change water supplies?


7 posted on 01/21/2016 5:12:19 AM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

Because they are BLACK!! Also this didn’t happen overnight. Probably before the “White Devil” Republican got elected. Amazing how the Praetorian Media works!


8 posted on 01/21/2016 5:29:36 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: montag813

They sent some of these guys to Texas.

“BexarMet hired Victor Mercado, former head of the Detroit Water and Sewer Department, in November 2009. The board fired him Thursday night, one day after a federal grand jury in Detroit indicted him on charges of racketeering conspiracy, extortion and obstruction of justice in a municipal corruption case.”

Democrat town, Democrat problems. Blame Republicans.


9 posted on 01/21/2016 5:30:52 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz)
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To: Lee'sGhost

I work in the civil engineering field, which includes municipal utilities.

When a project is handed off, you have to assume that everything done prior to your involvement was correct, checked, vetted, reviewed, approved unless you are told to check on a problem, or it is glaring. These people who did the design and construction plans are professionals, and there are liabilities. You don’t make mistakes if you want to keep your job/company.

It is my understanding that studies were done, and there were concerns that the Flint River water was corrosive enough to cause the lead to leach out of the existing pipes, which it has.

It sounds to me like the MDEQ and the EPA pushed this thing through. We never get approval for new construction, let alone this magnitude of modification in such a time frame.

That said, the state officials were/are in a lose/lose position. If they had made Flint jump through all the hoops everyone else has to, they would have been called racist for dragging their feet after the Flint City Council had already approved the switch.

So it went through without the proper reviews (I think), and now the state officials are racists.


10 posted on 01/21/2016 5:42:33 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: CWW

Were Willie McGee here we’d get even more inside dope - thanx. Fed dems aren’t going to ever do anything to local dems since they have an iron fist pact like the old mobsters. That governor is going to eat the whole thing. My two cents is that people that live in Balto, Flint, Ferguson, etc. need to MOVE away ASAP. Just get away from it, go somewhere and start over. Get away from it - these ghetto cities are irredeemable.


11 posted on 01/21/2016 5:47:32 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: Lee'sGhost

I work in the civil engineering field, which includes municipal utilities.

When a project is handed off, you have to assume that everything done prior to your involvement was correct, checked, vetted, reviewed, approved unless you are told to check on a problem, or it is glaring. These people who did the design and construction plans are professionals, and there are liabilities. You don’t make mistakes if you want to keep your job/company.

It is my understanding that studies were done, and there were concerns that the Flint River water was corrosive enough to cause the lead to leach out of the existing pipes, which it has.

It sounds to me like the MDEQ and the EPA pushed this thing through. We never get approval for new construction, let alone this magnitude of modification in such a time frame.

That said, the state officials were/are in a lose/lose position. If they had made Flint jump through all the hoops everyone else has to, they would have been called racist for dragging their feet after the Flint City Council had already approved the switch.

So it went through without the proper reviews (I think), and now the state officials are racists.


12 posted on 01/21/2016 5:54:12 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: kevslisababy

Of course they’re racists. They’re white, aren’t they.

;-)

Thanks.


13 posted on 01/21/2016 6:07:13 AM PST by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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To: cripplecreek

Let me see if I have this straight. The Democrat Flint city government decides to switch water sources. The Democrat Detroit city government cuts them off early making it necessary for the Democrat Flint government to get water from a polluted source, running it through corroded and corroding pipes. The EPA buries a report about it. The Republican governor is blamed.

Am I missing something?


14 posted on 01/21/2016 6:40:58 AM PST by Daveinyork ("Trusting government with money and power is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys",)
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To: montag813

Just another case of Democrats sh*tt*ng in their own nest again, and expecting somebody else to clean it up. The all Democrat Flint city council also rejected putting anti- corrosive minerals in the water. These minerals would’ve prevented lead from leaching out of old pipes and into the water supply. The reason? “too expensive”. When they got their water from Detroit, the minerals were put in as a matter of course. And the Flint river? Have you ever seen the Flint river? The one time I did was back in the mid 80’s. It smelled like toxic waste and had a dead dog floating in it.

CC


15 posted on 01/21/2016 6:46:36 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (CC: purveyor of cryptic, snarky posts since December, 2000..)
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To: DBCJR

The Flint city council voted for and made the decision. To save money.


16 posted on 01/21/2016 10:44:52 AM PST by MarMema
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To: Daveinyork

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/77453236-story


17 posted on 01/21/2016 10:56:09 AM PST by MarMema
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