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To: Perdogg
I recall the narrative of the Battle of Moria where Azog in the book met his fate, from Appendix A of ROTK. Dáin Ironfoot (the same character from the Hobbit) reveals that he saw the Balrog still in Moria.
When at last the battle was won, the Dwarves that were left gathered in Azanulbizar. They took the head of Azog and thrust into its mouth the purse of small money, and then they set it on a stake. But no feast nor song was there that night; for their dead were beyond the count of grief. Barely half of their number, it is said, could still stand or had hope of healing.

Nonetheless, in the morning Thráin stood before them. He had one eye blinded beyond cure, and he was halt with a leg-wound; but he said: “Good! We have the victory. Khazad-dûm is ours!”

But they answered: “Durin’s Heir you may be, but even with one eye you should see clearer. We fought this war for vengeance, and vengeance we have taken. But it is not sweet. If this is victory, then our hands are too small to hold it.”

And those who were not of Durin’s Folk said also: “Khazad-dûm was not our Fathers’ house. What is it to us, unless a hope of treasure? But now, if we must go without the rewards and the weregilds that are owed to us, the sooner we return to our own lands the better pleased we shall be.’

Then Thráin turned to Dáin, and said: “But surely my own kin will not desert me?” “No,” said Dáin. “You are the father of our Folk, and we have bled for you, and will again. But we will not enter Khazad-dûm. You will not enter Khazad-dûm. Only I have looked through the shadow of the Gate. Beyond the shadow it waits for you still: Durin’s Bane. The world must change and some other power than ours must come before Durin’s Folk walk again in Moria.” …
And of course, from that follows the narrative of Balin’s attempt to retake Moria, which was discovered by the Fellowship of the Ring to have been a failure.
19 posted on 01/02/2016 11:16:30 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Perdogg

I should actually add that Durin’s Bane was not known to be a Balrog until the Fellowship encountered it. It was identified by such in the book by Legolas, rather than Gandalf.


20 posted on 01/02/2016 11:28:58 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I loved the books, and still read them every five years ago or so; for the past 40 years...

Still, I also liked the movies. Their stories were all a twist from the books, but were good by themselves.

Too many critics around here at times.


26 posted on 01/03/2016 5:05:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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