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It’s Time for Carly Fiorina to Stop Playing the Gender Card
Fortune ^ | December 21, 2015, 2:29 PM EST | Liz Wiseman

Posted on 12/22/2015 1:14:00 AM PST by RC one

During the most recent Republican presidential debate, Carly Fiorina, clad in vivid red against a lineup of dark suits, quoted Margaret Thatcher, saying, “If you want something talked about, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman.”

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KEYWORDS: 2016election; california; carly; carlyfiorina; cut; election2016; fiorina; useless
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Carly, you aren't going to win and you know it and everyone knows it and yet you stand there and tear down the man that everyone knows is most likely going to win and, thereby, you provide aid and comfort to the enemy-Hillary Clinton. It's past time for you to go. Do America a favor for once and follow Lindsay Graham's lead and get out of this race before you do any more damage than you have already done.
1 posted on 12/22/2015 1:14:01 AM PST by RC one
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If you want something talked about, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman.

I found this comment stupid, unnecessary, and lame. It's something Hitlery would say and is totally unbecoming of anyone seeking high office. Join the other girl, Linda Gramnesty, and hang 'em up.

2 posted on 12/22/2015 1:19:59 AM PST by laweeks
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To: RC one

“Carly, you aren’t going to win and you know it and everyone knows it”

Yeah, time for her to face the facts.


4 posted on 12/22/2015 1:23:30 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: laweeks

I am more offended about her suggestion that mutual respect between two world leaders is some kind of a “bromance” that should be mocked. Trump is laying the ground work for a peaceful relationship with Russia and she and her neocon cronies are undermining him at every turn- talking about shooting down Russian jets and punching the Russians in the nose, and basically starting WW3 over a shite hole called Syria. And then they have the gall to question Trump’s temperament to be President. This is exactly the kind of thing that led to where we are today.


5 posted on 12/22/2015 1:26:30 AM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: RC one

Isn’t it the other way around. Females tend to like to talk while men tend to like action


6 posted on 12/22/2015 1:27:24 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane

This one sure seems to. Time for her to stop talking.


7 posted on 12/22/2015 1:29:39 AM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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8 posted on 12/22/2015 1:38:17 AM PST by Ken H
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related topic:

Time to Thin the GOP Herd


9 posted on 12/22/2015 1:46:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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Carly's just not there. She had a mini-surge and then? Flop.
10 posted on 12/22/2015 2:01:45 AM PST by Netz
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To: RC one

The fact that she had a drug addicted child, a vagina, and has conquered menopause do not strike me as qualifications to be President.

Although if I have to look at a President in jeans, she wins hands down. But still not a “qualification.”


11 posted on 12/22/2015 2:52:15 AM PST by Vermont Lt (I had student debt. It came from a bank. Not from the Govt.)
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To: RC one

“Do America a favor for once and follow Lindsay Graham’s lead and get out of this race before you do any more damage than you have already done.”

I’m convinced Carly was always Jeb’s designated VP candidate. She ran for the top spot in order to gain national awareness with GOP voters and the general public. Her mission was to add gender balance to the Jeb ticket. In addition, as a female she could aggressively attack Hillary while Jeb played the role of “gentleman” and avoided the “war on women” drumbeat from the Democrats. Having Carly run through the primaries also allowed her to become battle hardened and fully vetted by the press. By the time the general election arrived, her HP baggage would be old news.

Unless the elites running the GOP decide to fix the nomination and give it to Jeb no matter how poorly he performs, it now appears the master plan has failed. Jeb is extremely disliked by the conservative Republican faction and GOP moderates have failed to coalesce with enthusiasm behind him. Assuming Trump and Cruz run strong in the first quarter of 2016, Jeb will fail in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina and in doing so will be perceived by voters and donors as unelectable. If Jeb and his backers have any desire to run Jeb third party to play spoiler in the fall election, Jeb will have to withdraw from the Republican race by early March. Even if he isn’t going to run third party, he’ll need to bow out before March 15 to avoid being humiliated in his home state of Florida primary where he is currently polling #4.

So with Jeb gone, where is Carly? She, like Jeb, has clearly failed to resonate with GOP voters so she will not get the nomination for the top spot on the ticket. Likely she remains in the race hoping to get the #2 spot.

Carly won’t get the second spot on a Trump ticket. Clearly she and Trump dislike each other immensely, and Trump is the one male candidate with the personality to get away with attacking Hillary directly. This week we are already seeing Trump and Hillary go directly at each other. If Carly had inside Washington experience she might provide some value to Trump Since she hasn’t been a player in Congress or the bureaucracy, and Trump doesn’t need gender balance or her management expertise she knows she won’t be on the Donald’s ticket. For this reason we see her continuing to curry favor with the other candidates by attacking Trump directly and indirectly.

If Cruz, Rubio or Carson should get the nomination, Carly is a very viable #2. She insulates them from a repeat of the Democrat Party’s “war on women” campaign theme. She can viciously attack Hillary on the stump and in the media in a way no average male politician can. In addition her management experience in the private sector can be portrayed as an asset since Cruz, Rubio, and Carson all lack significant management experience. Carly running as VP on a Cruz, Rubio or Carson ticket becomes “historic” in that there are no privileged white males on the tickets. She would give the GOP a ticket which neutralizes two major Democrat attack themes - war on women and white male privilege.

Unless the GOPe donors pull the plug completely on her financing, expect Carly to hang tough through the first few primaries. Despite the press coverage of the Republican campaign to date, most voters aren’t paying attention or if they are paying attention at all they are vaguely aware of Donald Trump causing a stir. In the spring when votes are actually being cast, ordinary voters will begin to pay attention. If Carly is going to be the VP candidate, she needs to be in the race and to build awareness with the general public.


12 posted on 12/22/2015 2:55:11 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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They never should have run Jeb in the first place, not with his last name. Obama has run against the Bush brand twice and soundly defeated it both times. Hillary would have done the same thing and the outcome would have been the same. The Bush brand is that tarnished. What the hell were they thinking?


13 posted on 12/22/2015 3:12:18 AM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: RC one

It is the only card in her deck!


14 posted on 12/22/2015 3:28:51 AM PST by Redleg Duke (The Federal Government is nothing but a welfare program with a dress code!)
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To: RC one

She’s playing the affirmative action game. I have a feeling thanks to obama, many people will give a second look to anyone playing the race card or gender card or any other special cards.

We want someone that leads the nation, not dividing it like the current fellow has. Her numbers will never rise again. She’s done. No one will trust her. She’s not even good VP or cabinet material for that matter. In my book he’s just a few rungs on the ladder above Hitlery.


15 posted on 12/22/2015 3:57:58 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

Right on—do her like she did the folks at Lucent and HP.


16 posted on 12/22/2015 4:02:20 AM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: RC one

Horse face should get ready for the glue factory ...


17 posted on 12/22/2015 4:02:55 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (FUBO)
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To: Redleg Duke

It’s just time for her to go. She isn’t helping herself. She isn’t helping the Republican party. She isn’t helping the country. The only person she’s helping at this point are the Democrats who are already exploiting every criticism levied against Donald Trump by her and the rest of the GOPe. Describing polite mutually respectful dialogue between Trump and Putin as a “bromance” is just beyond the pale. She should feel very dirty trying to undermine peace that way.


18 posted on 12/22/2015 4:05:40 AM PST by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: 4rcane

That’s my experience with the positive. If something needs to get done to build or create something, the men are usually the doers. If there is a revenge or jealousy at hand, it’s usually a woman instigating if not actually doing the dirty work.

My dad told me when I was a boy if you tick off a woman she will stoop the the absolute lowest tactics to get back. I’ve found this to be true on a number of occasions.

Probably only a small percentage of women are like that, that’s the type that fall for this gender card crap. I just cannot imagine being married to something with the personality of Carly.


19 posted on 12/22/2015 4:10:58 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: RC one

“What the hell were they thinking?”

Pure ego, not deliberate thought. Same with McCain and Romney.

These people believe they are better than their fellow citizens and they have the special intelligence, education, experience, and social stature to lead. In their make believe world, the sheep should simply follow.


20 posted on 12/22/2015 4:15:05 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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