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Black holes can grow to 50 billion times the mass of the Sun... and then stop
www.ibtimes.co.uk ^ | December 21, 2015 12:30 GMT | By Matt Atherton

Posted on 12/21/2015 1:15:25 PM PST by Red Badger

Black holes can only grow if they have a gas disc to feed on NASA Goddard Space Flight Center/Flickr

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Black holes can only grow to 50 billion times the mass of the Sun, before they lose their only source of 'food' and stop growing. Scientists discovered that black holes have a size limit, as when it gets so big, the gas which feeds the great void loses its energy, and falls into the unknown.

A researcher from the University of Leicester analysed the disc of gas which surrounds supermassive black holes at the centre of galaxies. He found that these gas discs are unstable, and can lose their energy and crumble when the outer edge of the black hole gets to a certain length.

"The significance of this discovery is that astronomers have found black holes of almost the maximum mass," said Andrew King, author of the study. "The mass limit means that this procedure should not turn up any masses much bigger than those we know, because there would not be a luminous [gas] disc."

The study, published in the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, says that once the black hole loses its gas disc, it stops growing. This suggests that 50 billion Suns roughly equals the maximum mass of a black hole.

King does, however, say that there are alternatives that would allow it to keep growing, without its own gas disc.

"Bigger black hole masses are in principle possible -- for example, a hole near the maximum mass could merge with another black hole, and the result would be bigger still," he confirmed.

He adds that these merged black holes would still not have a gas disc though, and therefore the usual manner of detecting black holes would not work. Other means of detection could still be used.

Traditionally, scientists detect black holes on Earth by analysing the gas discs. The gas molecules spin so quickly around the black hole that they heat up, and emit X-rays. On Earth, the X-rays can then be detected, to prove the presence of a black hole.

We could still detect merged black holes though, by investigating the manner in which light bends as it passes very close to it.

In our galaxy alone, there are around 100 million black holes. The Hubble Telescope gives us estimates of around 100 billion galaxies in our universe. That means there are roughly 10 quintillion black holes in our universe... and a new one is made every second. More about black holes

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TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Astronomy; Education; Science
KEYWORDS: blackhole; blackholes; darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; physics; science; space; speedofdark; stringtheory
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To: The Cajun

It’s just on hiatus......................


21 posted on 12/21/2015 2:39:07 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: The Cajun

(get it?).......................


22 posted on 12/21/2015 2:39:25 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: I want the USA back

They will...............eventually...................


23 posted on 12/21/2015 2:40:05 PM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe some anti-matter too.


24 posted on 12/21/2015 3:19:18 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: Red Badger

This is from the same academics that push the climate change BS.


25 posted on 12/21/2015 3:27:47 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: rdl6989

Anti-Matter Matters.


26 posted on 12/21/2015 4:16:48 PM PST by West Texas Chuck (OBAMA: Fundamentally Twerking America)
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To: Red Badger
Hiatus huh, kind of like Gorebull warming :^)
27 posted on 12/21/2015 7:00:30 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: TexasTransplant

according to my chalkboard, it around 51.


28 posted on 12/22/2015 4:13:09 AM PST by brivette
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To: rdl6989

IIt would get a tummy ache bigtime!...................


29 posted on 12/22/2015 6:09:35 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger
This is a very poorly written article. Data is missing and it doesn't make sense. I see this kind of writing in other things that I've been studying for a long time. Writers are taking notes and regurgitating things they don't understand.

Something I learned about black holes that blew my mind. There is NO MATTER in the center of a black hole. Matter is collapsed to nothing, thus destroyed, and only the gravity remains.

30 posted on 12/22/2015 6:20:21 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Today harlots would let Solomon cut their babies in half.)
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To: DungeonMaster

Perhaps they just don’t understand the gravity of the situation.......................


31 posted on 12/22/2015 6:29:25 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Red Badger
Perhaps they just don’t understand the gravity of the situation.......................

Just trying to shed some light on the subject.

32 posted on 12/22/2015 6:53:34 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Today harlots would let Solomon cut their babies in half.)
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To: Red Badger

The article says that black holes can grow to any size by merging with other black holes, but there is an upper mass limit for a black hole growing by accretion of gas in its vicinity. When the black hole gets large enough, the radiation from the accretion zone fills such a large volume surrounding the black hole that the gas cannot cool any more. The volume of a cloud of hot gas increases by the cube of the radius, but the surface area of the cloud only increases by the square of the radius, At some point the surface area is not large enough to dissipate the heat of the enclosed gas cloud. The intense radiation pressure of the black hole thus forces the gas away and it cannot enter the black hole any more. The black hole stops growing at about 10 billion solar masses. Here is a quote from the original article at ArXive:

“As the black hole grows, an outflow drives a shell into the surrounding gas which stalls after a dynamical time-scale at a radius determined by the BH mass. The gas trapped inside this bubble cools, forms stars and is recycled as accretion and outflow. Once the BH reaches a critical mass, this region attains a size such that the gas can no longer cool efficiently. The resulting energy-driven flow expels the remaining gas as a super wind.”


33 posted on 12/26/2015 6:33:36 PM PST by billslugg
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