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Zack Greinke signs six-year, $206.5-million deal with Arizona Diamondbacks
http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-greinke-signs-arizona-diamondbacks-20151203-story.html ^ | Dec 4, 2015 | Dylan Hernandez

Posted on 12/12/2015 11:36:28 AM PST by Jim W N

Will the Dodgers miss the playoffs next year?

The question gained a significant amount of gravity Friday, as the Dodgers received word that Zack Greinke wouldn't return next season.

Greinke agreed to a six-year deal with the Arizona Diamondbacks.

Greinke's departure figures to be a setback for the Dodgers, whose rotation now consists of Clayton Kershaw and a series of wild cards.

Greinke finished second this year in voting for the Cy Young Award, close behind Jake Arrieta of the Chicago Cubs.

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Why didn't the Giants get this guy? Could have meant another winning playoff year in 2016.

The Giants need more GOOD pitchers.

1 posted on 12/12/2015 11:36:28 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Woot! Goldschmidt, Pollack, Corbin, Greinke and Shelby Miller. We’re building our own All Star Team. We got two Zacks full on the mound. Greinke and Godley.


2 posted on 12/12/2015 11:39:24 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Obama says, the Second Amendment is the greatest recruiting tool that ISIS has.)
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To: Jim 0216

I believe Greinke said he would go wherever the most money was offered.

Brian Sabean said the Giants wouldn’t go for a sixth year. One story had the Giants offering $195 million.


3 posted on 12/12/2015 11:46:21 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Jim 0216

Guy isn’t worth the money for a six year contract. He had three good seasons, last year was a monster, but is bound to regress to his norm.


4 posted on 12/12/2015 11:47:34 AM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

By my calculations ,if he pitches about every 5th game and throws 100 pitches per game(unlikely)with his 36 million dollar salary per year(more or less) he is costing, get this, about $10,000 PER PITCH. An intentional walk=$40,000? C’mon America, get real! Is my math wrong?


5 posted on 12/12/2015 11:50:43 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Jim 0216

The Giants didn’t want to spend that kind of money
for that length of a contract period. We’ll see how
they do with Samardzija who didn’t tear it up
w/the Chisox last season. Let the Dodgers, Red Sox,
Yanks try to buy their way into the series. The Giants
don’t roll that way to their credit.


6 posted on 12/12/2015 11:52:37 AM PST by Sivad (Juan Corona would vote for Democrats)
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Brian Sabean said the Giants wouldn’t go for a sixth year.

I wonder why? Greinke almost certainly would put them in the playoffs and a contender to win it all again.

Probably because pitchers' arms don't seem to last that long anymore. Also, for some reason, the Giants have a hard time keeping their pitchers' ERA's low for an extended time unlike Atlanta in the 90's who had the same pitchers/rotation pitching great year after year.

Seems like it would have been worth it.

7 posted on 12/12/2015 11:54:16 AM PST by Jim W N
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Because a guy who only plays every 5th game is grossly over priced at 34 million a year. I know the MLB cap is just a suggestion, but damn are they over paying. And that means they’ll suck for the length of this contract, plus probably just as long on the other side as they try to rebuild. Fastest way to kill a team is overpaying for talent.


8 posted on 12/12/2015 11:55:37 AM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: Don Corleone

Yet if a Doctor, Surgeon, Business owner, Lawyer, Plumber Electrician and/or virtually anyone else makes him/her self a hell of a good living, they are labeled as greedy, selfish, uncaring rip-off artists and charlatans.
But if a (truly) talented athlete or a silicon enhanced movie star signs a multi-million dollar contract the people rise up cheering and applauding.
Does this say anything about values?
I remember as a kid, reading editorials and sermons against greed and avarice when TED WILLIAMS signed a 4100,000 contract with the Red Sox.


9 posted on 12/12/2015 11:59:48 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (New York Times: "We print the news as it fits our views.")
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To: Don Corleone

Your math is good he’s over paid and yet sports fans whine about Ceo’s income who really do something for a living.


10 posted on 12/12/2015 11:59:52 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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A baseball geek might say he was worth it, using WAR.

A win-above-replacement is worth $8 mil, so Greinke’s WAR of 4 or so would be worth his $30+ million annual salary.


11 posted on 12/12/2015 12:03:40 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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Timmy and Matt are going to make wonderful recoveries and they win their 4th in this millennium.. Leakes is insurance.. Too bad Aoki is gone.

Oh vell.


12 posted on 12/12/2015 12:23:39 PM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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Timmy may have to find another rotation to play for. If
he is kept he will be in the bullpen with the Giants


13 posted on 12/12/2015 1:23:29 PM PST by Sivad (Juan Corona would vote for Democrats)
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To: Jim 0216

That’s, what...207k a game?


14 posted on 12/12/2015 1:29:34 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Or around a million dollars per start.


15 posted on 12/12/2015 1:33:14 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Rome2000

Pro salaries in general are getting way too high. Paying this much for a part-time player who relies on eight others to function is ridiculous. Team owners need to go to a results oriented system of pay, something like a base salary plus performance bonus.


16 posted on 12/12/2015 1:39:54 PM PST by Boomer One ( ToUses)
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When I see ticket prices to pro sports events, which help pay these high salaries, you wonder who is buying the tickets. How many people take the family to a ball game nowadays, vs. how many tickets are bought by corporations and the wealthy, who get a tax write off for buying the tickets???

I wonder if pro sports as we know them will survive into the future, if tax laws changed, and/or corporate types stopped buying the tickets. Could you still have these multimillion dollar contracts if ticket sales and TV viewership declines???


17 posted on 12/12/2015 1:45:33 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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Do you really want them to tie up $34 MILLION!!! per year on one player? That's too high a percentage of the payroll to commit to one guy, especially one you're importing from outside the organization.

They did get Samardzija, who's not quite in Greinke's class, but is a pretty good pitcher. Suppose they get another good, not great, pitcher and maybe a hitter. Would that be a more effective use of their money than tying it up in one player?

18 posted on 12/12/2015 2:23:03 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

And Shelby Miller.


19 posted on 12/12/2015 2:23:25 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: jjotto

At Greinke’s age, I’m not sure I’d go for a sizth year either. The Diamondbcaks figure to get about three good years out of Greinke.


20 posted on 12/12/2015 2:24:12 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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