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The Myth of the War Between Science and Religion
Strange Notions ^ | October 12, 2015 | Bishop Robert Barron

Posted on 11/12/2015 10:04:55 AM PST by Heartlander

The Myth of the War Between Science and Religion

For the past several years, I've been posting short commentaries on YouTube, probably the most popular website in the world.  I've covered everything from movies and music to books and cultural trends, but I've given special attention to the New Atheism. Among other videos, I've posted three answers to Christopher Hitchens' book God is Not Great, a brief presentation of some classical arguments for God's existence, and a response to Bill Maher's movie Religulous. As you might know, people are able to post comments in response to videos, and I’ve received a huge quantity of them, mostly negative, in regard to the aforementioned pieces.  Setting aside the venomous and emotionally-driven comments, I've been able to discern, in the more serious ones, a number of patterns.

The most glaring of these is what I would call scientism, the philosophical assumption that the real is reducible to what the empirical sciences can verify or describe.  In reaction to my attempts to demonstrate that God must exist as the necessary ground to the radically contingent universe, respondent after respondent says some version of this:  energy, or matter, or the Big Bang, is the ultimate cause of all things.  When I counter that the Big Bang itself demonstrates that the universe in its totality is contingent and hence in need of a cause extraneous to itself, they think I'm just talking nonsense.  The obvious success of the physical sciences - evident in the technology that surrounds us and facilitates our lives in so many ways - has convinced many of our young people (the vast majority of those who watch YouTube are young) that anything outside of the range of the empirical and measurable is simply a fantasy, the stuff of superstition and primitive belief.  That there might be a dimension of reality knowable in a non-scientific but still rational manner never occurs to them.  This prejudice, this blindness to literature, philosophy, metaphysics, mysticism, and religion is the scientism that I'm complaining about.

Another feature of this scientism - and it’s evident everywhere on my YouTube forums - is  the extremely disturbing assumption that science and religion are, by their natures, implacable enemies.  Again and again, my interlocutors resurrect the story of Galileo to prove that the church has always sided with obscurantism and naïve biblical literalism over and against the sciences.  The Catholic philosopher Robert Sokolowski has argued that the founding myth of modernity is that enlightened thought was born out of, and in opposition to, pre-scientific religion.  And this is why, Sokolowski continues, the conflict between religion and science must be perpetually rehearsed and revived, as a kind of ritual acting out of the primal story.  (If you want to see a particularly dramatic presentation of this, watch the movie Inherit the Wind.)

But this myth is so much nonsense.  Leaving aside the complexities of the Galileo story (and there are complexities to it), we can see that the vast majority of the founding figures of modern science—Copernicus, Newton, Kepler, Descartes, Pascal, Tycho Brahe—were devoutly religious.  More to it, two of the most important physicists of the 19th century—Faraday and Maxwell—were extremely pious, and the formulator of the Big Bang theory was a priest!  If you want a contemporary embodiment of the coming-together of science and religion, look to John Polkinghorne, Cambridge particle physicist and Anglican priest and one of the best commentators on the non-competitive interface between scientific and religious paths to truth.

Indeed, as Polkinghorne and many others have pointed out, the modern physical sciences were, in fact, made possible by the religious milieu out of which they emerged.  It is no accident that modern science first appeared precisely in Christian Europe, where a doctrine of creation held sway.  To hold that the world is created is to accept, simultaneously, the two assumptions required for science, namely, that the universe is not divine and that it is marked, through and through, by intelligibility.  If the world or nature is considered divine (as it is in many philosophies and mysticisms), then one would never allow oneself to analyze it, dissect it, or perform experiments upon it.  But a created world, by definition, is not divine.  It is other than God, and in that very otherness, scientists find their freedom to act.  At the same time, if the world is unintelligible, no science would get off the ground, since all science is based upon the presumption that nature can be known, that it has a form.  But the world, precisely as created by a divine intelligence, is thoroughly intelligible, and hence scientists have the confidence to seek, explore, and experiment.

This is why thoughtful people - Christians and atheists alike - must battle the myth of the eternal warfare of science and religion.  We must continually preach, as St. John Paul II did, that faith and reason are complementary and compatible paths toward the knowledge of truth.


TOPICS: Education; History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiccurch; galileo
“If you do not assume the law of non-contradiction, you have nothing to argue about. If you do not assume the principles of sound reason, you have nothing to argue with. If you do not assume libertarian free will, you have no one to argue against. If you do not assume morality to be an objective commodity, you have no reason to argue in the first place. If you do not assume mind is primary, there is no “you” to make any argument at all.”
- William J Murray

1 posted on 11/12/2015 10:04:55 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

#AllMatterMatters


2 posted on 11/12/2015 10:18:25 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator
#AllMatterMatters

That's raycist.

#DarkMatterMatters

3 posted on 11/12/2015 10:22:31 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

4 posted on 11/12/2015 10:25:44 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: tacticalogic

5 posted on 11/12/2015 10:28:28 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Heartlander

A good article, but far beyond the ability of liberals and many others to understand. Anything beyond a sound byte is too much for them.

Though, I do like to respond to atheists who tell ma that religious people are all irrational... “Oh, You mean Sir Isaac Newton?”


6 posted on 11/12/2015 10:29:11 AM PST by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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To: Heartlander
This is why thoughtful people - Christians and atheists alike...

Finding an atheist who bases their belief on reason is a bit like finding a snow flake in a fire.

7 posted on 11/12/2015 10:33:32 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Heartlander
Christianity and science are opposed ... but only in the same sense as that which my thumb and forefinger are opposed - and between them, I can grasp everything.

Sir William Bragg ~ Nobel Prize for Physics (1915)

8 posted on 11/12/2015 11:02:53 AM PST by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: Heartlander
#ConservationOfEnergy
#UniversalEntropy
9 posted on 11/12/2015 12:17:16 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Heartlander

bkmk


10 posted on 11/13/2015 3:46:21 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Jan_Sobieski

As someone with more than a passing knowledge of thermodynamics, I can get on board with your program.

And further, this says it all for me:

http://tinyurl.com/qf4hv5n

(short audio clip)


11 posted on 11/13/2015 3:55:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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