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Whitey Bulger’s Enforcer Slams ‘Black Mass’: ‘The Movie Is Pure Fiction’
http://www.thedailybeast.com ^ | September 20, 2015 | Marlow Stern

Posted on 09/20/2015 3:05:06 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet
there are major discrepancies between what really happened and what happens onscreen

Well, it isn't like you could expect them to show the links between the Irish led organized crime family and the Irish led Democrat party families there.

21 posted on 09/20/2015 3:51:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BBell

Oh they care about buying rights. Black Mass is “based on” a book, guys got paid. Truth isn’t something they worry about, ownership rights though, that matters to Hollywood.


22 posted on 09/20/2015 4:04:07 PM PDT by discostu (dream big and dance a lot)
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To: NKP_Vet

Movie was based on a great book, but of course Hollywood hollywoodiezed the book into hollywood crap.

two interesting black mass viewer (not professional) reviews on rottentomatoes:

1st review:

In 2014, documentary director Joe Berlinger (”Under African Skies”) released a movie about the notorious Boston gangster James “Whitey” Bulger, entitled “Whitey: United States of America v. James J. Bulger.” I saw it at the Maryland Film Festival that year, and found it to be both a
comprehensive look at the life of a career criminal and utterly riveting. Made while Bulger was
on trial, in 2013 (he was captured in 2011 after 15 years on the run), and finished after he was sentenced, the film used first-hand accounts of accomplices, victims and witnesses to tell the chilling tale of a brutal psychopath’s rise and fall. We never saw Bulger, but did hear his voice from the courthouse tapes. You know what his main concern was? To make sure that no one thought him a “rat” (he was on file as a former FBI informant). Murderer? No problem. But not a rat. Chilling, indeed.

In 2015, narrative (fiction) director Scott Cooper (”Crazy Heart”) has released a new movie, also about Bulger, in which we see the man quite a bit. Only here he’s played by Johnny Depp (”The Lone Ranger”), who is so physically transformed that many news outlets have been calling him
“unrecognizable.” I would agree with that statement. Both his makeup artist and dialect coach deserve an award (as do his blue contact lenses). Whether or not the actor, himself, turns in a particularly memorable performance is up for debate. I enjoyed watching Depp - but then, I always do, as the man has had, has, and probably always will have, a commanding screen presence - but I did not find his characterization of the man he plays especially nuanced. He’s a violent creep who can turn on the charm when he wants to (which isn’t that often), but who never has much to
say that isn’t a threat (direct, veiled or otherwise).

His FBI handler, John Connolly, however - played by Joel Edgerton (”The Great Gatsby”) - can’t stop talking. Connolly grew up with the Bulger boys, both Whitey and his younger brother Billy - played by Benedict Cumberbatch (”The Imitation Game”) - who, for many years, was the most powerful politician in Massachusetts, and as “Black Mass” begins Connolly is freshly returned to Boston and looking for a way to make a name for himself by taking down the Italian mafia that runs the North End neighborhood of the city. Whitey - a childhood nickname, but he prefers Jimmy - a former convict with time in Leavenworth and Alcatraz behind him, is moving up in the Irish-dominated Winter Hill
Gang. Connolly makes a pitch to his superiors that they can use Jimmy Bulger as an informant against the Italians and thereby “clean up the city.” Unfortunately, this arrangement works primarily in Bulger’s favor, as, for many years, he does what he likes, when he likes, under the protection of the FBI. It’s a sweet deal for a very sour man.

Most of the folks involved in the film are professionals - Kevin Bacon (”X-Men: First Class”), Adam Scott (”The Overnight”), Peter Sarsgaard (”Blue Jasmine”) and even (a very good) Dakota Johnson (”Fifty Shades of Grey”), among them - and deliver adequate to fine performances. The film looks great: cinematographer Masanobu Takayanagi (”Silver Linings Playbook”) knows when to keep the images light and when to make them go very dark. But at the script level, there’s a big gaping three-pointed knife wound at the center of the story:

1. Who is Bulger and why does he do what he do?
2. Why would anyone in the FBI take Connolly seriously, since he is so obviously in bed (though not literally) with Bulger?
3. What does Billy really think about his brother, since their fates are intertwined?

All of that said, the film is frequently entertaining - if grim - and if you like your mob violence in your face, you’ll get it here. If you want a truly mesmerizing account of Jimmy Bulger’s life, however, you’re in the wrong place. For that, there’s always Berlinger’s documentary.

2nd review:

Great acting, disappointing movie. After living in South Boston the majority of my life, I can tell you this movie,
despite FANTASTIC acting totally missed the mark. Nowhere was the widespread fear of “The White Man” that dominated the poor throughout Southie In the late 70s and early 80s. Nothing about Rotary Liquors which Whitey literally stole at gun point, or countless other scens that could have conveyed that underlying fear. Nowhere was the frustration of Boston, and especially State Police Detectives who were constantly undermined by that piece of shit Jon Connoly. Nowhere are all the gravesites that had to be dug and checked out. Nowhere is the Bookie, Coke Dealer, and visiting Loan Shark EVERY bar in Southie had back then thanks to Whitie. Very little of this was shot in Southie. Though the hood has been almost fully over run with yuppie hipsters, the 3 housing project a (Whitie’s main hunting grounds) are still there as is Castle Island and all the other Southie parks and beaches. Whoever chose this movies locations obviously had their head up thier ass. Nowhere was Billy Bulger’s fake Irish brough or the way he REALLY talked, actually CHARMED, most people he interacted with. Nowhere are his scum bag kis, like Criss Bulger who ran arounf the neighborhood calling himself “Whitie” until the day his mother, Mary, found out and slapped him all over the intersection of M and 6th. Good Will Hunting caught Southie just BEFORE it changed, and The Departed captured the REAL Southie of this era. What a terrible disappointment from a South Boston perspective. Unlike GWH
and The Departed, this movie is NOT worth me owning. GREAT acting, terrible movie.


23 posted on 09/20/2015 4:08:29 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: NKP_Vet

Does it include all the gay bars Bulger liked to hang out at?


24 posted on 09/20/2015 4:08:38 PM PDT by fso301
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To: catnipman

The real life Whitey anecdotes are far most interesting than the movie ones.


25 posted on 09/20/2015 4:13:39 PM PDT by AU72
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To: NKP_Vet

Sucks when you’re a mass killer and you get portrayed badly by Hollywood.

Life is just SO unfair.


26 posted on 09/20/2015 4:40:29 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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Whitey Bulger’s Enforcer Slams ‘Black Mass’: ‘The Movie Is Pure Fiction’

A movie about a bunch of admitted murderers doesn't portray them accurately - cry me a river.
27 posted on 09/20/2015 4:41:17 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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http://news.yahoo.com/whitey-bulger-isnt-too-happy-193240483.html

“Black Mass might not be a great movie, but there’s probably at least one guy who likes it even less than our reviewer did, and that’s the real life gangster James “Whitey” Bulger.

Of course, he hasn’t seen the movie, and he probably never will considering he’s serving two life sentences and seems to hate the idea of its existence. He refused to communicate with Johnny Depp, who portrays him, in any way while the movie was being made.

Here’s a statement his attorney gave to People, saying Bulger, 85, has zero plans to watch the movie even if it somehow makes its way to the Florida prison where he’s being held.

“Johnny Depp might as well have been playing the Mad Hatter all over again as far as James Bulger is concerned,” the lawyer, Hank Brennan says. “Hollywood greed is behind the rush to portray my client, and the movie missed the real scourge created in my client’s case, the real menace to Boston during that time and in other mob cases around the country – the federal government’s complicity in each and every one of those murders with the top echelon informant program.”


28 posted on 09/20/2015 5:05:00 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: dfwgator

Next headline we’ll see: “Charles Manson claims major errors in Helter Skelter”


29 posted on 09/20/2015 5:16:39 PM PDT by Jack Straw from Wichita
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To: NKP_Vet

So who was the “inner circle”...all leftist IRA supporting Dems?

It was an excellent movie. I didn’t realize that Johnny Depp could act...but he sure can. And the rest of the cast, including Benedict Cumberbatch, was fantastic. I’m not very familiar with the guy who played Connolly, but he was excellent.

A great mob movie. Morality and crime.


30 posted on 09/20/2015 5:24:27 PM PDT by livius
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I’m up to season 6 of NCIS on Netflix.


31 posted on 09/20/2015 5:26:04 PM PDT by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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Bulger, 85, has zero plans to watch the movie

No way Whitey would not want to see the movie. Has too much of an ego not to want to.

32 posted on 09/20/2015 5:26:13 PM PDT by AU72
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To: albie

Depp did say this about Whitey Bulger.
What despicable comments!

“There’s a kind heart in there,” he said. “There’s a cold heart in there. There’s a man who loves. There’s a man who cries. There’s a lot to the man.”

“No disrespect to any victims or families of victims, but there was some element for me that was kind of glad that he got away,” Depp was quoted as saying. “For 16 years he was on the lam and he wasn’t causing any trouble. He was living his life. Good on him.”
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/sep/18/whitey-bulger-victims-angered-by-johnny-depps-comments-at-black-mass-premiere


33 posted on 09/21/2015 9:24:07 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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