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Battle of Britain:A historic flypast of about 40 Spitfires and Hurricanes
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Posted on 09/15/2015 8:04:49 AM PDT by Snowyman

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To: wally_bert

He would be old now. I remember those men who were then in their twenties and early thirties. My Dad was a gunner in a TBF he would be 95 today. I remember him, and his buddies, in their early twenties.


21 posted on 09/15/2015 9:09:29 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Snowyman
I apologize, I didn't get the story right.

I did, however, find it. It took place in 1945, not 1940 as I asserted.

It is in the book To Win the Winter Sky, by Danny S. Parker, found in the chapter entitled "Operation Bodenplatte: January 1st, 1945.

I reproduce it here:

The P-47s of the 387th and 388th Squadron returned just after the enemy fighters departed the field. Although they gave chase they soon returned to base; the Germans were gone. The returned to Metz-Frescaty to a scene of smoking and wrecked planes and absolute chaos. What a day! But convincing evidence that the "Hell Hawks" were not taken out by the German assault was not long in coming. Later Monday afternoon, 44 of their "Jugs" were back in the skies east of the battle zone claiming four locomotives, 25 rail cars and eight rail cuts.

One of the German pilots shot down had baled out to be captured at the edge of the airfield. He spoke excellent English and "was a very cocky person" -- so insolent that the Luftwaffe pilot refused to be photographed until he had combed his hair and shined his boots. Maj. George R. Brooking, the commander of the just-devastated 386th Fighter Squadron, came over to headquarters where the pilot was being held. Brooking had been chased off the can from his morning constitutional when the fighters attacked. Pulling up his pants, he had crawled into an AA emplacement to direct the gun crew.

During his conversation with the Luftwaffe pilot the German strolled to the window and motioned to the still-burning planes on the airfield. "What do you think of that?" he asked. Brooking wanted to punch the German, but left the room instead. Over the next few days replacement planes quickly arrived at the Metz airfield. Maj. Brooking made a point of going back to visit the German pilot who was still being held at headquarters. Upon meeting, he motioned for the German pilot to look out the window. There sat ten new Thunderbolts where before had been smoldering wrecks of the burning aircraft. "What do you think of that?" Brooking pointed. The Luftwaffe pilot looked out and turned to Brooking. "That," he said thoughtfully, "is what is beating us."

I apologize for getting some of the facts wrong. I probably read it ten years ago. I did look for the story before my earlier post, but was unable to find it. Your comment prompted me to look more carefully for it. Thanks for that.

22 posted on 09/15/2015 9:15:12 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: biff

Never been a huge P-51 fan, for me the ‘38 is most iconic and the fighter that did the most work was the ‘47 which gets way to little credit.


23 posted on 09/15/2015 9:25:05 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Snowyman

Where did they find that many?
I though Hurricanes were all but extinct with only a couple surviving!


24 posted on 09/15/2015 9:28:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Snowyman

“Repeat Please?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXf1bhEEXd0


25 posted on 09/15/2015 9:31:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Bidimus1

The ole 47 sure wasn’t purdy but it was like a truck, functional and tough.

I liked the 38 also, it was just so much bigger than the 51 and the lines were not as sexy. It did a hell of a job in the south Pacific with long range missions.


26 posted on 09/15/2015 9:50:09 AM PDT by biff
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I had a friend who was an airplane mechanic in Europe in WW2. I suggested the P51 was the greatest plane in that conflict and he said he liked the Spitfire. He felt it to be the greatest single engine prop designed.


27 posted on 09/15/2015 9:53:16 AM PDT by LouAvul (Freedom without responsibility is anarchy.)
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To: LouAvul

Many of those WWII planes were beautiful in design. Today aircraft design exhibits raw, cold power very little beauty.


28 posted on 09/15/2015 9:59:35 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: Steely Tom

Your story reminded me of this .

Galland flew 705 combat missions, he survived being shot down 4 times , and he was credited with 104 aerial victories, all of them against the Western Allies.

During the battle, the fighter pilots were criticized by Göring for the growing bomber losses. In a front line General Officer briefing Göring asked what his fighter pilots needed to win the battle.

Galland replied: “I should like an outfit of Spitfires for my squadron.” which left Göring speechless with rage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjz8pAGRvsg


29 posted on 09/15/2015 10:07:05 AM PDT by Snowyman
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To: wally_bert

My favorite is the P-40 in tigers livery.


30 posted on 09/15/2015 10:09:34 AM PDT by Iron head mike (Dirty deeds done dirt cheap)
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To: Snowyman
A flypast involving about 40 Spitfires and Hurricanes is taking place

I'm surprised to read this, as I'd heard that only one Spitfire is still airworthy. Is it 1+39, or what?

31 posted on 09/15/2015 11:12:47 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Google is your friend.


32 posted on 09/15/2015 1:05:55 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

http://www.amazon.com/Guillows-Vought-F4U-4-Corsair-Model/dp/B0006GZ3M8


33 posted on 09/15/2015 1:09:14 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Snowyman
I addressed the question directly to you. Simply not answering, or a simple courteous "I don't know" or "I don't care," or even "Don't bother me with stupid questions," would have sufficed, friend.
34 posted on 09/15/2015 2:08:01 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

He was up there when I last saw him. A few months before he’d had a minor stroke and messed up his vision.

Great guy all around.


35 posted on 09/15/2015 3:24:38 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: biff

These sharp P-51s were at Oshkosh when I went for the first time a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbZ1qDIKi60


36 posted on 09/15/2015 3:26:24 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Tossup between Typhoon and Tempest.


37 posted on 09/15/2015 3:27:37 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: Bidimus1

The jug never really got it’s due.

If it were me then, I’d take one since it was built like a tank.


38 posted on 09/15/2015 3:28:26 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

See also: http://www.amazon.com/Dumas-Corsair-17-5-Rubber-Power/dp/B000BQ4WFW


39 posted on 09/15/2015 3:51:02 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Kommodor

Thanks. My paper and balsa Corsair model cost $1.25.


40 posted on 09/15/2015 6:27:35 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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