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Tim Cook received complaints on Apple's bag check policy
CNBC ^ | June 11, 2015

Posted on 06/11/2015 10:39:54 AM PDT by Swordmaker

At least two Apple retail store workers complained directly to Chief Executive Tim Cook that the company's policy of checking retail employees' bags as a security precaution was embarrassing and demeaning, according to a court filing made public on Wednesday.

The employee complaints, which a judge ordered unsealed, are part of a 2013 lawsuit alleging Apple should compensate employees for the time it takes to conduct the searches. One worker, whose name was blacked out of the court filing, told Cook in a 2012 message that Apple managers "are required to treat 'valued' employees as criminals."

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Cook forwarded it to top retail and human resources executives with the query: "Is this true?" The court filing does not include what responses Cook received. An Apple representative could not immediately be reached for comment.

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Bag checks of employees in high end retail is standard business practice. FUD Season is in high gear. . .
1 posted on 06/11/2015 10:39:54 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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Tim Cook received complaints on Apple's employee bag check policy. . .
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2 posted on 06/11/2015 10:42:38 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

Did u yoos seil chequer on yer tag lyin?


3 posted on 06/11/2015 10:54:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Swordmaker
Hi Swordmaker,

Funny, I was in another window just about to send you a note about this. Glad you were ahead of me!

Yeah, the suit is two years old but it makes news today because it was unsealed yesterday. How convenient for the FUDsters.

OTOH, they said it was 50-90 minutes per week, which is 10-15 minutes per day. What the hell takes that long? They doing body cavity checks?

4 posted on 06/11/2015 10:56:42 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Swordmaker

Whadda ya think this is, a voting booth?


5 posted on 06/11/2015 10:57:27 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Vendome; Swordmaker
> Did u yoos seil chequer on yer tag lyin?

Next question is, if he fixes the typo in his next post, does it change it in all prior posts? I.e. is the tagline stored separately for each post, or (more likely) in one place in a database from which all posts are tagged?

I guess we'll find out...

6 posted on 06/11/2015 11:00:01 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Swordmaker

The Gay Tim Cook said there was a misunderstanding. He had actually said: “He wanted to check-out their ‘packages’!”


7 posted on 06/11/2015 11:01:48 AM PDT by TRY ONE (I never got the memo changing the name of Global Warming to Klimate Change)
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To: dayglored
does it change it in all prior posts?

No.

8 posted on 06/11/2015 11:14:58 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It is never untimely to yank the rope of freedom's bell." - - Frank Capra)
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To: Swordmaker
ok I have a confession to make, when working at a taco shop in the 70s in high school we use to make our own food concoctions after midnight on Friday and Saturday when the mgr went home.
9 posted on 06/11/2015 11:15:37 AM PDT by Jolla
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The way they have always checked bags at department stores in Los Angeles is not to allow purses or bags that are not approved.

Approved bags, which you can carry your comb, wallet, etcetera, is CLEAR.


10 posted on 06/11/2015 11:16:39 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: Swordmaker

I had a friend who was a programmer for a company that supported Apple’s hardware. He had to sign an agreement that if any leaks came from him he would be liable for $1,000,000 in damages.

So they look in your bags and you don’t like it? Quit and work somewhere else.


11 posted on 06/11/2015 11:26:13 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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It is standard procedure to check bags carried by employees when they leave stores.

That being said, my second job when I was a teenager was as a stock clerk in a TG&Y store. The biggest thief in the store was the store manager who did the bag checks. My suspicions were raised one day when the store manager had me carry six of a particular item to his car. Later that day I happened to buy something for myself and wrote it down on the employees' charge book and noticed that he had only charged ONE of those particular items to himself, not six.

Not only did he steal the largest amount of store merchandise, he also figured out how to get around the seals on the cash registers and how to set the registers back every morning when he came in, taking $100 per register per day, then ringing up false sales to make a replacement detail tape to total the sales matching the money he left in the cash drawer. There were five registers.

I wound up, as the stock clerk, doing the closing routines of emptying the registers and running the detail tapes at closing, because the assistant manager spent the evening hours drinking beer and worse in the warehouse and getting smashed.

The office girl had gotten suspicious something was going on because on one day, one of the registers had an unusual number of checks and not all of the checks had sales that equalled the check amounts. She and I were friends and we discussed the possibilities. I mentioned that the store manager had forgotten that he had told me to come in early to unload a truck on a Saturday morning and when i went into the warehouse I found he had a cash register taken apart. . . a big no-no. He quickly covered it with a tarp and acted as if nothing happened.

She and I came up with a strategy. I started running a second and third sales detail tape when I closed the registers every night I worked, initialed them and gave her a copy and kept one for myself. They NEVER matched the detail tapes found in the morning when she came in to work and count the register money. . . and were consistently $100 per register more than the "official" tapes!

After I accepted a job working at a large gun shop, the office girl and I made an appointment with the TG&Y district manager and went with our copies of the detail tapes and the "official" tapes. The DM told us that our store had the highest "shrinkage rate" of all the TG&Y stores in his district and we had just shown him why. . . and he thanked us. He asked us to go back to work as if nothing had happened. I told him I had a new job and was not working there anymore. He seemed disappointed.

Several days later, about 11 in the morning a group of men and women entered the store in the company of the DM, locked the doors, and allowed the finish of the sales then in progress and let all the current customers to leave. They then laid-off everyone in the store, except the office girl, which i thought was quite unfair, but apparently they operated under the theory that others had seen the store manager taking merchandise and looked the other way. Two hours later they re-opened the store with all new staff. The office girl? Kept her job but no raise, no promotion, no bonus. She and I got a thank you letter. Whoop-do-doo. Company policy then was that only men were promoted to management positions. She quit and found a better job as soon as possible.

Unfortunately they did not prosecute the store manager. I heard they did not want the negative publicity. The ex-store manager moved to New Mexico and opened his own hardware store using much of the inventory he stole from the TG&Y store. . .

12 posted on 06/11/2015 11:34:13 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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OTOH, they said it was 50-90 minutes per week, which is 10-15 minutes per day. What the hell takes that long? They doing body cavity checks?

From what I have read, it includes leaving for the day, lunch and/or dinner, and required rest breaks, if they leave the store carrying a bag of any type. That might be four times leaving the store. . . times five to six work days. So now divide that 10-15 minutes per day by four. . . and you are looking at 4 to 7 minutes per check of multiple employees as they wait in line at end of day and perhaps a bit less, say 2 to 4 minutes, for individuals finding a manager to check them leaving for breaks or lunch/dinner. Now add lawsuit factual puffery.

13 posted on 06/11/2015 11:53:38 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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Approved bags, which you can carry your comb, wallet, etcetera, is CLEAR.

Yes, seen them. Seen through them.

14 posted on 06/11/2015 11:56:44 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: dayglored

I think it stays the same.

I did the same thing years ago...


15 posted on 06/11/2015 12:13:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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> ... it includes leaving for the day, lunch and/or dinner, and required rest breaks, if they leave the store carrying a bag of any type...

Okay, that makes sense then. A bunch of checks at even a minute each plus any time standing in line, yeah, I can see that.

I had to do that (long ago in another lifetime, it seems) and the clear-bag thing and all that...

16 posted on 06/11/2015 3:41:26 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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> ...Tim Cook said there was a misunderstanding. He had actually said: “He wanted to check-out their ‘packages’!”

You can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave...

17 posted on 06/11/2015 3:42:33 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: Swordmaker

I thought Timmy was checking male bags.


18 posted on 06/11/2015 3:43:38 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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Did u yoos seil chequer on yer tag lyin?

Macs have spell-checking built-in. Suspect words are underlined with little red dots:

19 posted on 06/11/2015 4:08:09 PM PDT by cynwoody
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This happened because I apparently hit my trackpad accidentally while I was deleting something and it dropped into the tagline box and deleted the “i”. . .


20 posted on 06/11/2015 4:40:39 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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