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I Was a Proud Non-Breeder. Then I Changed My Mind.
New York Magazine (hat tip - Instanpundit) ^ | 05/25/2015 | Michelle Goldberg

Posted on 05/27/2015 7:48:04 PM PDT by jocon307

My own transformation didn’t begin with an unbidden outbreak of baby lust or a sudden longing for domesticity. It began, weirdly enough, when I learned about corpses becoming fathers. In 2011, I reported a piece for Tablet Magazine about the strange Israeli campaign for posthumous reproduction. Israel is the world capital of reproductive technology, and a legal group called New Family wanted to give parents who had lost adult sons the right to extract their sperm and create grandchildren. I have mixed feelings about making dads out of dead men, particularly if they hadn’t donated their sperm while living, but I remember being seized by the realization that if my husband were to die young, I’d want to be able to do it to him.

The idea of having kids to stave off the horror of death never resonated with me; I don’t see how you’re any less dead just because your DNA lives on. But children, I suddenly understood, would hedge against the unthinkable fact of my husband’s mortality. Not long ago, I learned the Arabic word Ya'aburnee from a friend’s cheesy Facebook graphic. Literally, “you bury me,” it means wanting to die before a loved one so as not to have to face the world without him or her in it. It’s a word that captures exactly my feeling for my husband. Part of the reason I didn’t want kids was because I feared they’d come between us, but if he were gone, I’d be frantic to hold on to a piece of him. Grasping this didn’t make me want a baby, exactly, but it started pushing me from “no” to, well, ambivalent.

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: parenthood
I thought this was an interesting article, written with a good heart, and well written, which is becoming every more rare.

The excerpt is not from the very beginning of the piece, but a couple of paragraphs in, the opening just had a lot of background that would have been hard to edit, so apologies if that's confusing in any way.

1 posted on 05/27/2015 7:48:05 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: jocon307
Initial reaction: The term "breeder" is insulting and derogatory. Dogs breed, humans reproduce.

Does the piece overcome that negativity/reality?

2 posted on 05/27/2015 7:53:11 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (If Hillary was running against Satan, I'd probably abstain.)
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To: Michael.SF.

What utter contempt for humanity they have.


3 posted on 05/27/2015 8:03:42 PM PDT by Shadow44
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To: Michael.SF.

“Does the piece overcome that negativity/reality?”

Yes, I think it does, that’s why I posted it.

I really liked this article, I thought it was very down to earth.

I come from the first generation of women who really could chose whether or not to have children (and still have sex, you know what I mean). Most of my friends did not have kids and I still don’t think they made the right choice, as much as one can say that about another person obviously. I also happened to come from a family with mostly women, most of whom that I knew were not married and did not have children, so I sort of think I saw almost all sides of this issue.

I’m happy to see that my daughter’s generation may be going back to motherhood. I don’t know if that statistics bear that out.


4 posted on 05/27/2015 8:11:04 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: MeganC

Ping Megan!


5 posted on 05/27/2015 8:14:56 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: jocon307

I don’t want to be too critical of this woman and her “journey” but she is ABSOLUTELY TYPICAL for the sort of yuppies I know who migrate to New York. They are thoroughly modern and liberal, while also self-centered and grasping. As she admits, children are the antithesis of this attitude. Manhattan is ground-zero for this breed.

It then becomes an utter revelation and epiphany for them, that they have the same basic needs and emotions that the rest of womanhood and humanity have had since the beginning of time.


6 posted on 05/27/2015 8:22:50 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: jocon307

____ Pride

People want to find pride in the stupidest things these days


7 posted on 05/27/2015 8:29:27 PM PDT by GeronL (free short story: http://flscifi.blogspot.com/2015/05/free-short-story-proper-care-feeding-of.html)
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To: Shadow44

“Part of the reason I didn’t want kids was because I feared they’d come between us, but if he were gone, I’d be frantic to hold on to a piece of him. “

And they have no idea how love expands your heart.


8 posted on 05/27/2015 8:33:11 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: jocon307

It was interesting....


9 posted on 05/27/2015 8:43:21 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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10 posted on 05/27/2015 9:08:19 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Is that 1000 women of childbearing age or just 1000 women.


11 posted on 05/27/2015 9:11:01 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Michael.SF.

“Breeders” is the derogatory term used by faggies to describe normal straight people.


12 posted on 05/27/2015 9:31:45 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Chickensoup

Per thousand women of childbearing age.
70 kids born per year for women for the 30 years (15 to 45) they could have kids = 1.9 per woman, just below replacement level, which is where we are for a total fertility rate


13 posted on 05/28/2015 5:57:35 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: tbw2

Yeah but more of them died in 1909.


14 posted on 05/28/2015 6:01:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: KC_Lion

Thank you for the ping! I appreciate the validation! (-:


15 posted on 05/28/2015 9:14:51 AM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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