Posted on 04/11/2015 5:50:44 AM PDT by kingattax
Which Maines on Iwo Jima were non-combat? I know what you are saying, but even at that there is a reason truck drivers are still armed.
That is misleading, in that the Navy does much of the work of the Marines, they just don't call them Marines, the Army and Air force do all of those jobs for themselves.
If your child bearing age women are being sent to die by the 100s of thousands in combat, them what is a country fighting for?
Where would America be if half of it’s Civil War casualties had been child bearing age women?
Whatever.
Yeah. That's where I learned that shooting is more than just aiming and pulling a trigger. After a couple of dates, the girl I married and I went to the sporting goods store and bought out first rifles together. Her father was a gunsmith, and she loved shooting. That was in 1957. Our son still has it.
FWIW
Same place we're gonna be because of contraceptive pills and abortions, I guess. WMs can choose to be non-bearing.
I've known a few combat corpsmen myself. Outstanding.
Today we are overpopulated and heading for a billion people, it does not compare to the mid 1800s.
With respect, I frankly don’t see the connection to military females.
With respect, I frankly don’t see the connection to military females.
Are you drinking? Your posts are pretty strange.
First females will go to next Army Ranger school cycle. This is the Army’s test to see if they lower their standards to meet the PC society.
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/2015/01/15/women-ranger-school-assessment/21708147/
“...More to leadership than PT and passing a tactics course....”
You are absolutely right. My point is that, according to the standards and the proficiency tests, she will prove herself.
To prove herself to the men she will lead is a different story; however, if she gets through that course, I’d say she’s earned the opportunity to prove herself to the men she will ultimately lead.
“...What planet would this woman live on?...”
So far, Earth ain’t looking too good. But I’m not ruling out the possibility just yet. There may be a bunch of women who *could*, but have zero interest. Perhaps the women (at least so far) who do have an interest, have delusions of grandeur or are urged through some insane “affirmative action” motivation.
“...It doesn’t make sense to me to surge women into ground combat infantry role...”
Agree 100% and we are seeing that it’s not going to work out as the PC crowd had planned. However, there may be a warrior out there with the drive, leadership potential and physical capabilities. I wouldn’t shut the door to them *IF* they can cut the mnustard.
bfl
Unless the standards change, it won't ever happen.
Perhaps they should have a more in-depth pre-selection/triage course for women (and men) to make sure they appear to have a chance. It might thin the crowd earlier and avoid wasting time & money on someone who’s ego won’t let them admit their personal limitations.
There really isn't time for that. The Basic School (TBS) goes for six months (6/yr)IOC repeats 4/yr. TBS Grads have anywhere from 3 days to a month post grad to prepare for IOC. Ego isn't the issue, fitness is as well as susceptibility to injury. Ground guys get all the command billets while in TBS (at least in my company)so that experience is helpful for the non-fitness related activity in IOC. One is just as likely to get hurt in a prep course as the real course if the prep course is really trying to be effective.
Women won't make it as long as the standards remain the same. Being an infantry officer isn't some type of encounter group. Platoon and Company command billets shouldn't be a reward for PC behavior. The enlisted guys have no say in their leaders. It is incumbent upon the school system in the Corps to deliver men physically capable of leading such men. Whether they prosper after that is another question.
“...It is incumbent upon the school system in the Corps to deliver men physically capable of leading such men. Whether they prosper after that is another question...”
That’s pretty much where I’m at. But If a woman comes along that can graduate the course at the same standards, then in my opinion, they’ve earned the *opportunity* to prove themselves further to the unit they are assigned to lead. And as you said, “Whether they prosper after that is another question”.
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