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5 things Steve Jobs said Apple would never do - and Apple is doing
Money/CNN ^ | 1/19/15 | David Goldman

Posted on 01/19/2015 11:18:56 AM PST by martin_fierro

Go to the link for details, but herein I break it down for ya bruvva


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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; elonmusk; stevejobs; tesla; titan
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1 posted on 01/19/2015 11:18:56 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: Swordmaker

Pingawinga


2 posted on 01/19/2015 11:19:17 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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#4 should be “No more lifelike-looking software/icons (”skeuomorphism”)”


3 posted on 01/19/2015 11:24:02 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9966885570/air-stylus-turns-ipad-into-graphics-tablet

those of us who have been using WACOM drawing tablets with our macs for decades now will likely welcome the new IPAD with stylus for the reasons mentioned above.

Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Lightroom both have a Mobile App....in addition to the full monty.

this will bring those apps up to snuff very nicely


4 posted on 01/19/2015 11:24:27 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: martin_fierro

Add: Have a Gay man as CEO.
</sarc>

Makes sense to me.

I have lots of Apple products and a history of arguing with ‘he who is not a dentist.’

Apple is, IMHO, on a downward spiral...sad.

There is, psychologically, very little difference between an Apple ‘fanboy’ and a liberal. Both classes do not tolerate dissent.

This is not ‘flameworthy’ - - - it is a true statement.


5 posted on 01/19/2015 11:28:33 AM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: MeshugeMikey

The “stylus thing” has been there for the iPad for quite a while now, apart from what Apple has done. There are different ones out there now.


6 posted on 01/19/2015 11:30:28 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: BBB333
There is, psychologically, very little difference between an Apple ‘fanboy’ and a liberal.

It's not the Apple, it's the fanboy. (Granted ... Apple does seem to me to have a disproportionate number of fanboys.) It goes way beyond just electronic gadgets, as well. I have seen the fanboy phenomenon with cars, guns, cameras, novelists ...

7 posted on 01/19/2015 11:32:32 AM PST by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: martin_fierro

Some of this is contextual... Steve properly argued needing a stylus to use a device is inherently bad, but as his rant against small form factor tablets show he knew there are limits to how exact a human finger can be. With a 12 or 13” screen it’s a safe assumption that this will target artistic and graphical folks who will want/need to draw and paint on their devices and for those interactions a stylus makes sense.

Mr jobs was stubborn but it wasn’t like he never changed his mind, in fact many of the things they claim he said he would never do were things that were started under his watch. The iphone 5 and iPad mini for example both began development while he was still alive and involved in the company.

Just because they were released afte his death does not mean he was not involved or had no knowledge of them.


8 posted on 01/19/2015 11:33:44 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: martin_fierro

Here’s four more:

1. Fans in the Macintosh (They make NOISE)
2. File format compatibility with other platforms
3. Support for a second mouse button in the MacOS (only one button makes it impossible to hit the wrong one)
4. Building a Mac that can run non Apple OSes


9 posted on 01/19/2015 11:34:59 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: martin_fierro

The problem as I see it is that you need to adopt to what consumers want.

I don’t think Jobs would have been pleased to the point of being publicly dismissive of Microsoft Surface 3. Unfortunately the market has spoken clearly on this and loves full PC functionality in tablet form with a stylus and full keyboard.

While it’s debatable how many people are using Illustrator, Photoshop etc on mobile devices you can’t get detail out of your fingers.

The mobile market has blurred too much between productivity and consumer media consumption that options and needs once thought impractical or unnecessary are now practical and necessary.


10 posted on 01/19/2015 11:35:19 AM PST by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: martin_fierro

The idea of “no stylus” for the iPad when it was introduced and in these beginning years was the right decision. The iOS should be (and is) completely operational independent of a stylus. The “touch system” needed to be refined as completely as possible without any interference from a stylus.

I would say that this has been fully accomplished now, so that a stylus can be a specialized “add on” product and isn’t required for a fully functional iPad.

Steve Jobs had the right idea back then. We’ve progressed quite a ways from that point in time, now.


11 posted on 01/19/2015 11:35:39 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

wow Wacom has had a pressure sensitive pen for the IPAD too.

Thanks

http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/stylus/intuos-creative-stylus-2


12 posted on 01/19/2015 11:37:42 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: BBB333

I don’t really see Apple innovating anything. (or anyone else for that matter)

I think their main strategy now is to try to maintain their market price, and everyone else is pretty much doing so too. Until something ground breaking comes along, the smartphone has basically been ‘done’. Now we are just looking at little improvements here and there to warrant a new ‘version’; such as a better battery life or reception, CPU, ect. With smartphones, we’re pretty much where we were with PCs around 2010.


13 posted on 01/19/2015 11:37:52 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: martin_fierro
Lifelike-looking software/icons ("skeuomorphism")

I might need to have this one explained to me.

However, Steve Jobs wasn't right all the time. He made some bonehead moves in his time. Not wanting to release an iPhone with a large screen was one of them. When the iPhone 6+ came out a few months ago, iPhone sales exploded and reached new heights. All momentum to the Android platform stopped.

14 posted on 01/19/2015 11:38:02 AM PST by SamAdams76
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To: martin_fierro

The newer and “cleaner” look of the iOS now (from Jony Ive) is better and more in style now. Looking back at the previous style ... really makes the iOS look OLD!


15 posted on 01/19/2015 11:38:08 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: BBB333

Apple is a product of Jobs’ commercialization of 60s sensibilities.

“Technology for the rest of us”

It will not survive with corporatist process guys like Cook. The original examples of this were Amelio and Dietsel.

Even Scully had more creativity; he tried to make the Newton work. Bit ahead of its time, but the right direction.

The company is now on a long slow glide to irrelevance as just another Consumer electronics mass producer. They still have Jon Ivins and possibly more like him upcoming, but no Steve to filter what is and isnt cool.


16 posted on 01/19/2015 11:38:15 AM PST by Regulator
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To: martin_fierro

1.) Styluses. People are aging, and thought the days of fat fingering were behind them, as well as new opportunities for apps with the need for more precise control and input.

2.) Small iPads. The market is there for e-reader sized devices. Bigger than a phone, and not as cumbersome as an iPad. Not to mention that leaving such a big whole in the product line allows a new crop of competitors to gain both experience, reputation, and a market presence to encroach on both smart phones and the larger tablets.

3.) Big iPhones - See #2...

4.) Skeuomorphism. An artistic fad that does detract from the performance, however miniscule. If it can help market a product...

5.) Define “philanthropy”. My guess is it’s a way of paying off pols, one way or another, in Apple’s case, or diverting funds to pet causes of board members or corporate officers.


17 posted on 01/19/2015 11:39:21 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: martin_fierro

‘Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow’


18 posted on 01/19/2015 11:48:53 AM PST by Beowulf9
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To: BBB333

There are a whole lot of conservatives here on Free Republic using Macintosh computers, iMacs, iPods, iPads, iPhones and all Apple accessories and services ... all of which are great products.

That’s why Apple is doing so great with consumers in the USA and around the world!


19 posted on 01/19/2015 11:49:06 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SamAdams76

A good deal of android momentum slowed down when android 4.3 rolled out horribly crippled (from the standpoint of heavy users) and then threw on the brakes when Intel announced the 13nm processors.

The second quarter of this year we will see full Windows 10 running on phablets. That is going to draw the power users even if the price is relatively high. Not sure it will affect Apple that much but Android will likely take another market share hit.


20 posted on 01/19/2015 11:52:16 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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