Posted on 01/18/2015 5:23:37 PM PST by JOHN W K
and the Department of Education
the obamites have weaponized it. we’ll never get it clean again. may as well blow it up and start from scratch.
Good point!
Along those lines, please consider the following. Note that the Founding States had given control of the federal Senate uniquely to state lawmakers partly so that state lawmakers could work with the Senate to kill House appropriations bills which Congress cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers.
In other words, the Senate was intended to kill House bills which not only wrongly steal 10th Amendment-protected state powers, but also steal state revenues associated with those powers.
In fact, Justice John Marshall had clarified Congress’s limited power to lay taxes as follows.
“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
But I feel that the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, by giving low-information voters the power to elect federal Senators, threw down this major firewall that was intended to prevent the House from stealing state powers and associated state revenues.
I have also thought that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) can be required to remind “forgetful” Congress when Congress makes appropriations bills that it cannot justify under its Section 8-limited powers.
Again, your suggestion about a federal tax commissioner is well taken.
Bttt
That makes sense. Didn’t have this before 16th Amendment.
IRS with their own police force may turn on the congressman and senators who espouse such an idea...
Sounds good to me....
Enforcement of that law must by its very nature be a federal responsibility. It has to be to stop tax evaders.
It is a problem that goes back to the founding of the US.
There has never been an adequate way of funding the USG, even a very limited federal government. Constitutionally, the federals are forbidden from directly taxing the states; yet they cannot leave individual taxes up to the states to carry out, because individuals cross state borders all the time to evade federal taxation, even now. States have to go to lengths to catch people who have left the state to evade state taxes.
Yet about any direction you go with this, it works to the advantage of authoritarian-totalitarian types.
A totally federal taxation structure means “federalizing” all citizens, which has been in play since Social Security; as well as national ID cards; the weird restrictions of monitoring all financial transactions; it just gets icky, which it is.
Taking money at a higher level, such as VAT, would always be promised “instead” of income and other taxes, but the truth is that they would institute the VAT and *keep* the other taxes as well. The same with a national sales tax.
The bottom line is that taxation is a minefield, and millions of money people are employed specifically for the current system, so have a strong inertia to change.
Yes there is a way. The VERY first law signed by President Washington was the Tariff act of 1789.
Whereas it is necessary for the support of government, for the discharge of the debts of the United States, and the encouragement and protection of manufactures, that duties be laid on goods, wares and merchandise:"[1]
Free Traitors love income taxes and hate tariffs. I screw 'em. If they want to off shore production then they need to pay to play.
Yes it has gotten way out of hand and when people try to bring the federal government back to where it began people will holler anarchy.
Exactly! Taxes at our water’s edge get foreigners to pay for the privilege to do business on American soil, just like a fee is required to sell one’s products at a flea market!
JWK
The total value of U.S. imports in 2013 was $2.25 trillion. That same year U.S. non-discretionary spending alone was $2.54 trillion. So the U.S. could have placed a 100% tariff on everything imported and it still would have run a deficit of over a trillion dollars.
Cut the Federal to the bone and add a 5% NRST. Repeal the 16th. Problem solved. Income taxes are evil.
The only real solution to the evils of the IRS is to abolish it, and go with a national sales tax, with a maximum rate of 10%. God doesn’t ask for more than 10%, so the government should be able to live with that. THe author of this article is correct that even a ‘flat’ tax would leave the IRS with it’s abuses in place.
I'm not thrilled with the amount of income tax I pay either. But the idea that we can fund the government through tariffs is not realistic.
God doesn't have $2.8 trillion a year in non-discretionary spending.
All the mechanisms are in place to collect sales taxes. Whatever small remnant of the IRS would be necessary to maintain this would be what would remain.
JWK
JWK
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