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Mentally Ill Man Refuses to Take Medication So SWAT Shows Up and Kills Him
FreeThought Project ^ | December 2, 2014 | Matt Agorist

Posted on 12/03/2014 8:55:50 PM PST by Altariel

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To: Redbob

Psychiatric patients do not take their medications because they have a THOUGHT disorder and do not think clearly or logically. For many people psychiatric medications are uncomfortable to take, and they feel like they are wearing a mental straightjacket.

Not too many people will voluntarily put on a straightjacket every morning.

The reason these poor souls are shot and killed , and the many others like them who are uncared for, preyed upon, or who prey on others, can be laid directly at the feet of the leftists who emptied out the mental institutions and homes for the mentally retarded.

The same people who have made it nigh unto impossible for families to get treatment for their mentally ill members.

When some poor mentally ill soul is killed or dies on the streets in your area, call up and thank all the leftist judges, lawyers and politicians.


41 posted on 12/04/2014 5:48:51 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Altariel; Ramius; 300winmag; IrishCatholic; lookout88; Wpin; spetznaz; Smokin' Joe; ...
Thanks, for the Post/thread!...
SWORD PING!...
(and other metal bladed thingees)
Samurai stuff! *grin*


42 posted on 12/04/2014 5:55:26 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies. d8^)
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To: Altariel

Hell - I’m 62 and am willing to bet that I could have subdued him, without help and without killing him. This kind of thing seems to happen far more often than the good shoots that get the Blacks all het up.


43 posted on 12/04/2014 6:00:49 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Texicanus

When he started swinging a machete, why couldn’t the cops just back away instead of firing? Unless he was charging them I don’t see the need for deadly force.


44 posted on 12/04/2014 6:02:33 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Don W

Urban legend.


45 posted on 12/04/2014 6:35:56 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Don W
Next you'll come up with yet another SWAT story:
Man refuses to cover his mouth when he coughs and SWAT team attacks him and beats him up.
46 posted on 12/04/2014 6:38:45 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: jaydubya2

They could have backed away. But I think it became a life or death situation after one officer had been bloodied and the person with the machete was in the middle of a back swing in attempt to inflict further damage.

We’re talking microseconds here. The officers were attempting to collar him and take away his weapon. Their natural reaction was to switch from an offensive to a defensive position to protect their lives when attacked.

Again, the circumstances surrounding this incident should never have led to a life or death confrontation. There is blame on both sides.


47 posted on 12/04/2014 6:39:19 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: Don W

Another imaginary SWAT raid: Woman steps off the curb before the traffic light changes, SWAT team drags her down and beats her up.


48 posted on 12/04/2014 6:41:20 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Texicanus
They could have backed away. But I think it became a life or death situation after one officer had been bloodied and the person with the machete was in the middle of a back swing in attempt to inflict further damage.
We’re talking microseconds here. The officers were attempting to collar him and take away his weapon. Their natural reaction was to switch from an offensive to a defensive position to protect their lives when attacked.
Again, the circumstances surrounding this incident should never have led to a life or death confrontation. There is blame on both sides.

Well said.
There usually IS blame on both sides. Microseconds. Many people have tremendous bias, on whichever side, and blame one side or another without even knowing the full story.
Monday morning quarterbacks.

49 posted on 12/04/2014 6:44:27 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Don W

Another imaginary SWAT raid: Child cries in a restaurant and parents can’t get him to be quiet. SWAT team beats up parents and leaves child alone.


50 posted on 12/04/2014 6:47:36 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Mad Dawgg
You must submit to a welfare check so we can see if you are doing OK, if you refuse we will kill you. Have a nice day.

Now with the Gub'mint in charge of our health (they can force you to carry health insurance), I wonder how far they will go to ensure that one "follows the doctor's orders"?...

51 posted on 12/04/2014 8:58:39 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Chickensoup

You’ve hit the nail on the head.


52 posted on 12/04/2014 9:45:35 AM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: NativeSon
remember its OK to choke hold someone now till they die...

If you work for the gub'ment that is...

Or you can just kill a guy who has locked himself in a room with a weapon...

53 posted on 12/04/2014 11:06:12 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Altariel

He might hurt himself so you guys shoot him....for his own safety.


54 posted on 12/04/2014 11:07:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Rockpile

The details you gave do paint a different picture of the story. Tough call on this one.


55 posted on 12/04/2014 5:37:53 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: cva66snipe

There has to be a compromise somewhere. On the one hand, people shouldn’t be locked up based only on a family member’s say-so. That’s a power that could be abused. Most people suffering from mental illness (manic depression, etc.) are not a danger to anyone. On the other hand, some people (like this man) really are a danger to themselves and other people.

I grew up in a town that was the location of a “state hospital.” Outpatients were placed in the community. It was an interesting place to live, to say the least, with the occasional pedestrian breaking into dance in the middle of the street, or some stranger walking up to you and saying something totally off-the-wall.

But some of my high school classmates also were committed there from time to time, too, by their families for things like drug abuse, for example.


56 posted on 12/04/2014 5:53:12 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: Altariel

This is why you should take your medication


57 posted on 12/04/2014 6:25:22 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Television: Teacher, Mother, Secret Lover)
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To: AppyPappy

Government employee logic!


58 posted on 12/04/2014 8:08:54 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: cva66snipe

Well I read it. Just because some liberal judge made some ruling, does not mean that I have to call the cops. I would deal with my relative myself, or have someone he had a good relationship with to help me.

If the person happens to be under treatment, I might also talk to them for advice. How exactly do people think a cop is going to get some one to take their meds? Pull a gun and threaten them? Do a take down, and give them a shot? It’s just not an intelligent thing to do, and more often than not, in the case I know about, it ends badly.


59 posted on 12/04/2014 9:15:52 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

They shot this guy with bean bag rounds first but that did not work. The toxicology details might be interesting.

A few years ago in Odessa-—20 odd miles west-— a couple in their fifties had another fight and wife called the cops about her darling hubby who was combining his cancer and pain drugs with liquor. Three street cops got there and this guy White killed all three of them with a shotgun.

The Midland Sheriff office had their negotiator dude murdered in October and two other counties in this area had a car thief kill a deputy and a sex pervert kill a deputy so I reckon they are getting kind of worried sometimes.


60 posted on 12/04/2014 10:57:06 PM PST by Rockpile
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