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The Democrats’ Immigration Problem
The New York Times ^ | 11/20/2014 | ZOLTAN L. HAJNAL

Posted on 11/21/2014 8:53:52 AM PST by Beave Meister

SAN DIEGO — PRESIDENT OBAMA’S executive order eliminating the threat of deportation for millions of undocumented immigrants is good policy. It is the right thing to do. But it is a dangerous move for the Democratic Party.

Yes, immigration is an important issue for most Latinos and Asian-Americans. And yes, 63 percent of Latinos and 66 percent of Asian- Americans voted for Democratic candidates for Congress in the midterms. The executive order could solidify and expand that support for years to come.

But Latinos and Asian-Americans made up only 11 percent of the electorate. Even if immigration were the only issue driving their vote — and it most certainly was not — it could have shifted the national partisan balance of power by only a few percentage points.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aliens; asians; democrats; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; latinos; liberals; mexicans; newyorktimes; nyt; obama
Obama has been very consistent at consistently doing the wrong thing for this country.
1 posted on 11/21/2014 8:53:52 AM PST by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister

2 posted on 11/21/2014 8:54:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

What does this do to Obamacare......where does the money come from now?


3 posted on 11/21/2014 8:56:51 AM PST by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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“Put it all together: Many white Americans see that America is changing, believe that immigration is driving many of the negative changes and know that one party stands largely on the side of immigrants while the other party stands largely in opposition. For many whites, this is a powerful motivation to vote Republican.”

This makes me want to curse. The MSM narrative is nativist versus the other.

The real narrative is law versus lawless. We have not enforced our borders and despite what that lying POS in power states, we will not enforce our borders.

Without rule of law that is no sovereignty. Without sovereignty that is no nation.


4 posted on 11/21/2014 8:59:34 AM PST by OpusatFR (I did make that. No one else did the work.)
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To: Beave Meister
PRESIDENT OBAMA’S executive order eliminating the threat of deportation for millions of undocumented immigrants is good policy. It is the right thing to do.

Really?! How/Why?

5 posted on 11/21/2014 9:00:26 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Beave Meister

“11 percent of the electorate”

Yet immigrants make up 42% of Medicaid expenses!


6 posted on 11/21/2014 9:00:51 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Beave Meister
"Zoltan L. Hajnal is a professor of political science at the University of California, San Diego, and a co-author of “White Backlash: Immigration, Race, and American Politics.

Looks like one good argument against immigration right there.

7 posted on 11/21/2014 9:02:14 AM PST by norton
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To: Beave Meister

Ask Cloward and Piven. THey’ll tell you.


8 posted on 11/21/2014 9:07:19 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Beave Meister
The writers at the NYT are all extremely evil human beings.

They throw out the bold lie of 11% How the H*ll do they know that?

We are being invaded by millions upon millions of anti-American, very anti-English third world illiterates.

The NYT knows that some evil, satanic liberal judge will give them ALL voting rights.

The evil humans at the NYT have the same goal as Obama -- the utter destruction of the United States as Founded.

9 posted on 11/21/2014 9:07:36 AM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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And they must know that they will all vote to disarm us and take our stuff.

But, somehow, they see themselves to not be effected by this. I guess they think the new majority of "hispanics" will have a need for a white elite class. This isn't South America. This is a whole other animal.

10 posted on 11/21/2014 9:11:35 AM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: Beave Meister

Democrats need the votes of White men more than Republicans need the votes of minorities, who won’t vote for them anyway.


11 posted on 11/21/2014 9:15:10 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: OpusatFR
The real narrative is law versus lawless.

My thought, as well. Are we a nation of laws or not? Is a nation without borders really a nation?

12 posted on 11/21/2014 9:16:20 AM PST by randita (Obama entrusted the transformation of the best healthcare system in the world to a scam artist.)
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To: OpusatFR

translation: NYT to Obama: Hey, Dumbass, we have the poll internals. For every Hispanic who will now vote for Dems five white guys will crawl over broken glass to vote against.


13 posted on 11/21/2014 9:19:24 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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The Midterm Reject will do anything to stay relevant, spreading his Progressive Poison on Americans in ways that would shock our Founders...w/ Obamacare and now this.....forcing local communities to deal with the onerous costs of freeloading illegals, not to mention the contagion inflicted on American children.

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WET DREAMS OF ILLEGALS---TV news aired protestors in Murrieta, California turning away bus loads of unaccompanied minors, citing their concerns about public health (actions pre-dated child deaths from enterovirus and various Third World contaminates). American who dared speak out, were accused of fear-mongering and exaggeration by latinos.

At the La Raza conference in Cali (predates midterms)---Cong Luis Gutierrez (Dem-Ill) lacerated Republicans over amnesty; he threatened Republicans---saying vengeful latinos would make sure they never win another presidency. And who could forget the imbecilic Gutierrez strutting around, crowing about "having the House votes" to pass the Senate amnesty atrocity?

La Raza President/ and chief hater, Janet Murguia, told hyphenates that it sickened her to hear Americans chanting. She accused Murietta, Cali protesters of having "cloaked their hatred in patriotism" by shouting "'USA! USA!' again and again."

"It made me angry," she said. "In fact, I was outraged."

Murguia demanded amnesty and said the road to the White House for Republicans goes through the Latino community and La Raza. She also said Republicans who want to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program will not get Hispanic votes.

(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

REALITY CHECK: FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA---What the Republican takeover looked like as of midnight 11/5---Alaska went Republican and so is LA. Democrats who ran on amnesty were soundly defeated. Of 140 Southern state legislative districts, 110 went Republican.

Midterm Map courtesy of http://www.nationaljournal.com

14 posted on 11/21/2014 9:33:27 AM PST by Liz
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To: Travis McGee; Beave Meister
What does this do to Obamacare......where does the money come from now? ......... Ask Cloward and Piven. They’ll tell you.

Haters of democracy, Cloward and Piven, considered
"Motor Voter" to be their crowning, lifetime achievement.

The picture from White House archives, shows Cloward (light gray suit) and
Piven (green coat and navy dress) standing directly behind then-Pres Clinton
at the "Motor Voter" signing ceremony.

15 posted on 11/21/2014 9:38:07 AM PST by Liz
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To: Beave Meister

This Slimes article is full of outright lies.


16 posted on 11/21/2014 9:38:49 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Beave Meister
I guarantee you that for every Hispanic vote the DemocRATS get from this move, they will lose two white votes, AND the votes of the "Legal" immigrants who are here, bided their time and went through the process. They are very resentful.

I hate it when Republicans are scared to death to take a stand for the Constitution and against this Marxist President and Amnesty, because they fear the political repercussions. They are more concerned about protecting their next election than they are The Constitution.
17 posted on 11/21/2014 9:41:37 AM PST by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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HOW MANY "LEGAL" IMMIGRANTS ARE IN THIS NATION?

I guarantee you that for every Hispanic vote the DemocRATS get from this move, they will lose two white votes, AND the votes of the "Legal" immigrants who are here, bided their time and went through the process. They are very resentful.

I hate it when Republicans are scared to death to take a stand for the Constitution and against this Marxist President and Amnesty, because they fear the political repercussions. They are more concerned about protecting their next election than they are The Constitution.
18 posted on 11/21/2014 9:45:26 AM PST by Din Maker (I've always been crazy, but, that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: randita
P> OBAMA’S WAR AGAINST THE AMERICAN WORKERS

Obama's Executive Amnesty Could REWARD MILLIONS OF IMMIGRANTS WHO VIOLATED OUR SOVEREIGNTY ENTERING ILEGALLY IN THE COUNTRY, BUT IT WILL PROFOUNDLY AFFECT THE LIVES OF MILLIONS OF UNEMPLOYED AMERICAN BLUE COLLAR WORKERS.

Blacks are going to be the main collateral victims of Obama's anti-Black amnesty.

OBAMA’S UNCONSTITUTIONAL AMNESTY TO MIGRANTS THAT ARE LIVING ILLEGALLY IN THE U.S.A.

After destroying the best health care system in the world, Obama is determined to grant wide amnesty to foreigners living illegally in U.S. If Obama wants to make the U.S. into another banana republic, it seems he is well underway to reaching his goal.

The Republicans must make it perfectly clear that Obama has declared a merciless war against the American workers and the middle class of America. There are 92 million of able Americans out of the work force because they cannot find employment and Obama wants to legalize and give work permits to over 11 million illegal aliens allowing them to bring here the rest of their families. In other words, another 25 or 30 million that either will compete with Americans and legal immigrants searching for scarce jobs or are going to be added to welfare, bankrupting Medicaid and the food stamp system as well as ruining even more the quality of the public schools with the massive infuse of hundreds of thousands of children without speaking English to already overburdened schools systems.

Blacks are going to be the main collateral victims of Obama's anti-Black amnesty. Black Americans are already suffering higher unemployment since Obama took power. Obama’s new class of protected immigrants will take over their jobs and Blacks will be forced to share their welfare checks and food stamps with them

19 posted on 11/21/2014 11:13:47 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPx.jpg)
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