Posted on 10/30/2014 9:09:40 AM PDT by Theoria
Great way to prolong the Cold War, by feeding lots of false intel to both sides by these Nazis.
Much the same as using Mafia members to act as informers. Informers and spies are not necessarily nice guys.
And, frankly, Stalin was just as bad as Hitler, although FDR called him Uncle Joe and the NY Times insisted that he was a nice guy—and won its first Pulitzer Prize for whitewashing his mass murder in Ukraine.
So what.
You use scum to catch scum. It is the nature of the beast. Which Clinton and Gore were too stupid to realize.
Where, in this case, did it work?
Looks more like the vanquished got to weaken both of its former enemies while rebuilding its former empire. There are too many comparisons these days to the 1930s, especially in the European Union.
That’s a false comparison, since nobody uses a rival gang to spy on your primary target gang.
Amen to that. It is like Old Joe Kennedy said to FDR when he persuaded him to appoint Joe to head the newly created SEC. It takes a crook to catch a crook. ITA agree about Clinto and Gore. Especially Gore. We certainly dodge quite a bullet with him in 2000.
What with the jihadis having national-socialist philosophy, it’s the same thing as what was done here.
Disgusting that those Nazis didn’t face justice.
Agreed. It is on all the Allies that the “de-Nazification” process was handed over to Konrad Adenauer a mere two years after WWII ended; and three years after that, he unilaterally declared said process “over” (not complete). The same Adenauer populated his new government, and the businesses that were part of the so-called “Wirtschaftwunder” (or “economic miracle” that was funded courtesy of the USA via the Marshall Plan) with former Nazis too.
As some background, in eastern Europe, the Nazis had built some very effective intelligence gathering networks, some of which were still intact at the end of the war.
What happened with many Germans, their assumption was that they were no longer working for the Nazis, but were backing the western powers against the communists, figuring the war would continue between the US and the Soviet Union.
On a more mundane level, I visited a former Wehrmacht maintenance unit, that as late as the 1980s was still in operation, performing “3 shop” maintenance on US equipment.
When the US Army captured them, they were told to remove their insignia, and to keep working.
So as far as the spy networks were concerned, it was business as usual. The old boss the same as the new boss.
Old news, this has been going on for centuries. Using the captured enemies for spying and info is the nature of the beast. It works most of the time but that is what you get with using them.
Operation Paperclip as well. The US scooped up tons of Nazi brainiacs and put them to work designing weapons for us. Kept the Brits and Russians from using their expertise.
So your saying Werner Von Bruan should have been prosecuted?
Yes.
Well, actually, there have often been rival gangs among the Mafia, or times when several bosses fight each other for the leadership. But my point was, informers are not necessarily nice people.
Our German Scientists are better than Your (Russian) German Scientists, Na na na Na!!
Regards,
GtG
I never implied that any such players are “nice”; the nature of their allegiance(s) dictates otherwise. It is their usefulness and/or veracity that I question.
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