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Math is on life support. Can we save it?
American Thinker ^ | October 21, 2014 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 10/21/2014 11:03:48 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic

When is the wrong answer the right answer? Now. Today.

Reality alert: we have entered an alternative universe, thanks to Common Core. As people once scorned wrong answers, we will now learn to scorn right answers. Answer-getting (that’s the new jargon) will be held up for contempt, and slowly eliminated. That’s the plan.

This is not marginal nonsense. No, it is already mainstream nonsense. Phil Daro is one of the three principal writers of the Common Core Mathematics Standards. A 17-minute video about his ideas is promoted this way: “Phil Daro goes into detail on the problems of ‘Answer-getting,’ one of the practices that the new Common Core Standards intend to greatly reduce.”

As Phil Daro himself asks, “Are You Teaching Mathematics or Answer-Getting Strategies?” What sort of fool would think these were the same thing? No, they are now opposites.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: commoncore; math
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1 posted on 10/21/2014 11:03:48 AM PDT by right-wing agnostic
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To: right-wing agnostic

When the robots takeover the few sane and sensible humans remaining will not necessarily be rooting for their fellow humans.


2 posted on 10/21/2014 11:09:16 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: right-wing agnostic

Dear Math, stop asking me to find your x, she’s not coming back.


3 posted on 10/21/2014 11:09:40 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: right-wing agnostic

Math must die so right-think can prosper.


4 posted on 10/21/2014 11:12:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: right-wing agnostic

No. We cannot.

Math implies a problem and a solution. A black and a white. Math by it’s nature requires logic, reasoning and deductive analysis.

Each of these things, set free, is a problem for liberal philosophy. Ergo, it must be eradicated lest people apply it’s lessons outside ‘math’.


5 posted on 10/21/2014 11:12:13 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: right-wing agnostic

Sometimes things just don’t add up .


6 posted on 10/21/2014 11:14:35 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: right-wing agnostic

And of course cursive writing is not being taught either in some schools.


7 posted on 10/21/2014 11:15:25 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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8 posted on 10/21/2014 11:16:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: right-wing agnostic

I can confirm that getting the right answer will not get you credit.

Showing your work while getting the wrong answer gets you credit.


9 posted on 10/21/2014 11:16:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'M WITH CRUZ!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Math smacks too much of the existence of objective reality and truth.

Can’t have that.


10 posted on 10/21/2014 11:17:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: right-wing agnostic
Math is on life support. Can we save it?

Nonsense. Math will always be alive and useful. Without it, no mixtures would be accurate and all meth labs would explode. Without Math alive and well, thieves won't be able to tally what they've stolen. Without math, no one in the future will EVER be able to calculate how many angels dance on the head of a pin. Pure nonsense.
11 posted on 10/21/2014 11:18:07 AM PDT by Resettozero
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"Math implies a problem and a solution. A black and a white. "

With the inclusion of statistics, all is lost....

12 posted on 10/21/2014 11:18:12 AM PDT by Paladin2
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BTTT

This is what scares me the most about Common Core. We will be raising a generation of math illiterates.


13 posted on 10/21/2014 11:18:38 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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As people once scorned wrong answers, we will now learn to scorn right answers. Answer-getting (that’s the new jargon) will be held up for contempt, and slowly eliminated. That’s the plan.


14 posted on 10/21/2014 11:19:08 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Just the other night, after placing a fast food order, my husband tried to give the clerk the “right” change, after giving him a $20. The teen-aged clerk could not cope with it and forced my husband to take back his change so that he could give him the amount that the register told him to.


15 posted on 10/21/2014 11:21:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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...[w]e want our students to compute correctly but the emphasis is really moving more towards the explanation, and the how, and the why, and ‘can I really talk through the procedures that I went through to get this answer,' and not just knowing that it’s 12, but why is it 12? How do I know that?"

WTF?!? You're trying to teach the children MATH, not Philosophy.

Three multiplied by four is twelve because we humans have agreed that our primary number system will be a base 10 number system. We humans have agreed to use a system of names and characters to represent the various values within that number system: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

Basic Arithmetic/Mathematics are the rules and processes by which we manipulate those characters within the base 10 number system we have chosen to use in order to assist us in our endeavors.

That is all the "explanation" and "how" and "why" a young student needs to know in order to begin learning base 10 mathematics. To teach otherwise is to do a grave disservice to young minds.

16 posted on 10/21/2014 11:21:58 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
In school, I used to get the right answer. One teacher really had a problem with my not showing my work.

Now since the advent of VisiCalc/Lotus 1-2-3/Excel (MatLab/R, etc.) it's more difficult to hide one's tracks....

17 posted on 10/21/2014 11:22:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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It is painful to watch one of these newly minted kids try to figure out change without the machine telling them. They don’t know their times tables..and subtraction well enough to make accurate change. You will see them using their fingers..etc. My old 72 yo brain gets there before they do…and right.


18 posted on 10/21/2014 11:22:39 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Paladin2

But even then they are hard numbers at the end of the day. And ANYthing can be manipulated.

What I’m saying is more core level. The principles of math that make it possible are diametrically at odds to liberal thought. Libs see all in gray so that there can never be a binary solution. Math demands all things are solvable. That there can mistakes and they can indeed be corrected.

Also right and wrong.


19 posted on 10/21/2014 11:23:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Paladin2

I once saw a website that will give you the answer and “show your work”. I don’t remember the URL though


20 posted on 10/21/2014 11:24:39 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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