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Radiometric Dating, A Christian Perspective
American Scientific Affiliation - Science in Christian Perspective ^ | 2002 | Dr. Roger C. Wiens

Posted on 10/06/2014 1:10:19 PM PDT by JimSEA

Radiometric dating--the process of determining the age of rocks from the decay of their radioactive elements--has been in widespread use for over half a century. There are over forty such techniques, each using a different radioactive element or a different way of measuring them. It has become increasingly clear that these radiometric dating techniques agree with each other and as a whole, present a coherent picture in which the Earth was created a very long time ago. Further evidence comes from the complete agreement between radiometric dates and other dating methods such as counting tree rings or glacier ice core layers. Many Christians have been led to distrust radiometric dating and are completely unaware of the great number of laboratory measurements that have shown these methods to be consistent. Many are also unaware that Bible-believing Christians are among those actively involved in radiometric dating.

This paper describes in relatively simple terms how a number of the dating techniques work, how accurately the half-lives of the radioactive elements and the rock dates themselves are known, and how dates are checked with one another. In the process the paper refutes a number of misconceptions prevalent among Christians today. This paper is available on the web via the American Scientific Affiliation and related sites to promote greater understanding and wisdom on this issue, particularly within the Christian community.

(Excerpt) Read more at asa3.org ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: davidrohl; geology; godsgravesglyphs; radioactivity; rohl
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Since Radiometric Dating is a frequent topic at FR, I thought I'd post this for balance. I'll leave it to Dr. Wiens to answer the most frequent objections and explain the methodology of dating. It's a very long article so anyone most interested in the answers to young earth objection to Radiometric Dating gan go straight to the last couple of pages. I would recommend reading the whole thing if you want a better understanding of the subject as a whole. I learned a lot.
1 posted on 10/06/2014 1:10:20 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

I sent the article to my single son who has a BS in geology.


2 posted on 10/06/2014 1:15:14 PM PDT by Mercat
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To: JimSEA

I don’t think the issue is “how old the earth is” really - I think the issue is “what is time, exactly?” There is clear science that indicates time is not a constant - and it’s related to the speed of light - which has not been constant over all of time either. There are perceptible, measurable and predictable differences in the world’s official atomic clocks depending on their altitude.

Can you image the difference in the speed of time from earth to say, the next galaxy? It is quite possible that the earth was created in six days as we know them, AND that it’s 16 billion years old - are both correct. Depends on where you are keeping time from.

Then there’s the fact that time and space are actually the same thing ultimately....and we worship a God not confined by time or space. As Einstein said, the idea the there is a difference between the past, present and future remains a stubbornly persistent illusion. (paraphrase)


3 posted on 10/06/2014 1:22:57 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: JimSEA

My first class in biology back in the early 60s was taught by a pius Catholic Marist Brother named Brother William, who was well like and dubbed by his students ‘ bio-Bill’. He taught evolution in his science classes and in his home room class(which included Catechism) he taught that Jesus was Lord. Refreshing. No conflict.


4 posted on 10/06/2014 1:25:08 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: JimSEA

I wonder if most students at Christian colleges would not be prohibited from engaging in radiometric dating...


5 posted on 10/06/2014 1:27:31 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: JimSEA; Mercat

The fact is there is no proof that Adam and Eve and the first humanoid spirits (including Angels and lesser beings) were not existing for billions of years before Satan led them (Adam and Eve) to the process of Death. They were immortal and were not subject to programmed death until their code was altered by consuming that which was forbidden.

Therefore, Genesis does not conflict with radiocarbon dating technology.

Adam lived for 930 years after his EXPULSION and NOT from the time of his creation. Before his expulsion, he could not die. After he followed Satan, he lived for 930 years.


6 posted on 10/06/2014 1:28:23 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Vaquero
Over 50 years ago someone in my jr high science class asked about the Bible and science. She replied that there was no conflict between science and the Bible. Science was a study of God's work.
7 posted on 10/06/2014 1:32:31 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: chajin

“Welcome to Radiometric Dating here on the Big 97, K-LUV FM. This hour’s bachelorette contestant is Jenny. Jenny’s measurements are 38-25-36. The first correct straight male caller to 555-9707 who can convert her measurements into centimeters will winn a date with Jenny, all expenses paid! Only on Radiometric Dating, here on Big 97. K-LUV FM.


8 posted on 10/06/2014 1:33:37 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vaquero
He taught evolution in his science classes and in his home room class(which included Catechism) he taught that Jesus was Lord. Refreshing. No conflict.

Then he clearly did not understand either for they are diametrically opposed.

9 posted on 10/06/2014 1:34:11 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: JimSEA
Polystrate Trees: Dating rocks by radioactive timekeepers is simple in theory, but almost all of the different methods rely on these few basic assumptions:

1. Beginning Conditions Known; 2. Beginning Ratio of Daughter to Parent Isotope Known (zero date problem)3. Constant Decay Rate; 4. No Leaching or Addition of Parent or Daughter Isotopes; 5. All Assumptions Valid for Billions of Years; 6. There is also a difficulty in measuring precisely very small amounts of the various isotopes.

10 posted on 10/06/2014 1:38:56 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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The irony of your comment is that evolutionary theory tends to reinforce Genesis. The study of mitochondrial DNA has led to the discovery that all of humanity is descended from the same female ancestor.

Maybe it doesn’t read exactly as what’s in the Bible but that doesn’t take away from the fact that science has, at least in this case, validated a principle of faith. For myself this makes my faith all the more valid.

But that’s just me.


11 posted on 10/06/2014 2:04:24 PM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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I disagree....one is faith based and the other is learning about the wonders that the creator has put before us to learn...no different than learning how to use fire or make a wheel.


12 posted on 10/06/2014 2:06:24 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cold Heart

Bingo


13 posted on 10/06/2014 2:07:05 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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I wonder if most students at Christian colleges would not be prohibited from engaging in radiometric dating...

I met Mrs BN at a Christian College... I had been a field radio operator in Vietnam...I took one look at her, "sized her up" and you might say, her metrics were entirely satisfactory. Does that qualify as "radiometric dating"..at a Christian college?

(sorry, I realize that was quite a stretch.)

14 posted on 10/06/2014 2:09:21 PM PDT by BwanaNdege (Mother of Epidemics- "Gang Green and the Government Staff Infection" - G. Morgan, Freedom Foundation)
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To: JimSEA

I won’t date anyone who’s radio has less than 14 transistors.


15 posted on 10/06/2014 2:22:56 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: rjsimmon

“Then he clearly did not understand either for they are diametrically opposed”

Only in your dreams.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam


16 posted on 10/06/2014 2:34:57 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GODs)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Welcome to Radiometric Dating here...

Love it! Best laugh of the day for me.

17 posted on 10/06/2014 2:35:29 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“....and we worship a God not confined by time or space.”

Bingo!

Human time is not God Time because God is infinite and therefore exists outside of the constraints of human time.

For the Greater Glory Of God


18 posted on 10/06/2014 2:38:52 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GODs)
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To: Vaquero
He taught evolution in his science classes and in his home room class(which included Catechism) he taught that Jesus was Lord. Refreshing. No conflict.

There certainly is if there is no special creation of humankind — for if humankind evolved from some lesser-evolved form then humankind does not inherently contain the image of God.

19 posted on 10/06/2014 2:41:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Steely Tom
I won’t date anyone who’s radio has less than 14 transistors.

I want a five-tube radio, I like 'em really hot...

P.S. Mom had a five-tube Emerson AM radio in the early 60s when I was a kid. She used to listen to WIP from Philly, when the station was what we would call today Adult Contemporary, meaning most Rat Pack-type music. That was also back in the early Hy Lit days, except he was on WIBG, which stood for I Believe in God.

20 posted on 10/06/2014 2:43:12 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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