Posted on 09/25/2014 4:34:01 PM PDT by servo1969
I read the probable-cause for the contact was a seat-belt violation... What would be so wrong with a sincere, “Excuse me sir - I noticed you weren’t wearing your seat-belt. I don’t think you want a ticket for something so easy to avoid, and I really dread getting called to an accident where someone wasn’t belted in. So please do yourself a favor and make sure you wear that seat-belt. Ok? Thanks and please drive safely.”
We need fewer of these panicky “Barney Fife’s” and more level-headed “Andy Griffith’s”. I’m going to wear that phrase out.
My late Father retired from the police department in 1985. I grew up around police officers. That personality type is rare anywhere in society today. At my dad’s funeral many retired fellow policemen were there. We discussed this topic.
That was the original intention of the seat belt program. It wasn't revenue driven. Two things happened. One was high dollar Lobbyist for Insurance companies got it made a citation on your record offense so they could do loss prevention/risk management via public records. Most laws exist for that very reason meaning are insurance company demands.
The second thing is due to insane forfeiture laws state governments and local LEA's as well were glad to have yet another cause to initiate a traffic stop and establish cause to search for revenue to confiscate. That made abuses such as taking ones cash if they had a few hundred or a few thousand dollars into custody much easier. The cops are happy the insurers who own the legislators are happy.
I doubt any living person unless they stay home in bed can go through a day without breaking a law now on the books.
In general how they act at home reflects on how they act on patrol. My uncle is a retired cop. I've never heard any bad on him. I knew a police chief who lived in my neighborhood same thing. Nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.
My late FIL was a cop and at one time a penal farm warden as well. He liked to beat. He beat prisoners, he beat his daughter, it didn't matter to him. His actions likely turned a small time petty crime inmate into a multi killer escapee and caused one of the biggest man hunts in state history.
He was a cop from the 1950's - early 1980's. Started out as a trooper, from there to a warden, went to campus police, then retired a deputy. He should have been culled out in trooper academy back in the 1950's. He had no business with a badge nor for that matter even around kids period.
Keep your seatbelt on even when you get out of the car.
Occasionally the little old ladies get shot, too. When the cops train with L.O.L targets, and they do, that happens.
Rite of passage. Right of passage is good English but means something else.
For real.
Well? Did Rush chastise him or agree with him?
Yes,the cop should have given better instructions. But, why did the victim rush back into the truck so quickly? Not excusing the policeman for shooting, but that was bizarre.
Whenever I approach a policeman for any reason, I make sure he can see my hands are empty, and I do not get too close, too fast.
The police are rightly cautious of the public.
Thanks!
Cut him off. The guy was off the topic about the gentle giant, anyway. The discussion was how most people, outside areas like Fergusen, aren’t confrontational with cops during a stop.
There are plenty on this forum that agree with the instructor. And when the cop fills grandma full of holes, the said defenders will vigorously defend him/her.
Why should the police be cautious of the public? Is the public the enemy of the police? Are the public considered to be property of the State and the police there to keep them subdued?
Thanks. I’ve been working for a BIG Seattle area high-tech company this month, and haven’t been able to listen. The people I’m with would pitch a liberal fit. I won’t talk politics with them because while they are technological geniuses, they are political idiots.
My Rush 24 subscription ran out, too.
Because they are in charge of us, and therefore they must be obeyed.
A few years ago I was leaving the shooting range here in north harris county texas. Didn’t see I was in the go straight lane and made an illegal left turn. I was promptly pulled over by a Harris county deputy. As he approached my truck I informed him I was armed with my M1A .308, my 1911 45 auto, the pistol grip 12 gauge mossberg, the dan wesson 357 revolver and the marlin lever action 22 mag rifle all loaded and sitting in my front seat. He looked inside my truck and said “yes you are, please be more observant of the turn lanes and please be more careful, have a good day”. I thought that was nice of him.
Sounds like the police where when I was growing up. Unless you were killing or robbing with them, guns were no big deal. Almost everyone had one in their home.
Back when the Crown ruled supreme, when two or more serfs strove, each were punished equally. Why? Because either the king's property was injured or there was the potential for injuring the property of the king.
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