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What Is The Real Danger To Black People?
wham 1180 ^ | 8-15-2014 | BOB LONSBERRY

Posted on 08/15/2014 6:19:51 AM PDT by Citizen Zed

In the United States in 2011, the most recent year for which there are statistics, the FBI says there were 6,329 black people murdered. That does not include manslaughters and other non-murder homicides.

Nonetheless, it accounts for half of the murders in the country, and exceeds the number of whites murdered by about 500. That’s significant because blacks comprise a far smaller proportion of the population than do whites.

What percentage of murdered blacks are killed by other blacks?

In most cases, race of victim and perpetrator is not tracked. Of the 6,329 murdered black people in 2011, the FBI was able to identify the race of victim and perpetrator in 2,695 cases. Of those 2,695 black victims, 2,447 were murdered by other black people.

That’s 91 percent.

That means that – based on relatively low 2011 numbers – some 17 black people are murdered each day in the United States and 91 percent of them are killed by other blacks.

That’s fifteen a day.

Three hundred and sixty-five days a year.

The numbers for Missouri are even more staggering.

Most years, Missouri leads the nation in black homicides.

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1 posted on 08/15/2014 6:19:51 AM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

Simple, other black people.


2 posted on 08/15/2014 6:20:41 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Citizen Zed

The chip on their shoulders?


3 posted on 08/15/2014 6:22:20 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Islam, just like the rest of us.


4 posted on 08/15/2014 6:22:28 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Citizen Zed

Snakes on a plane.


5 posted on 08/15/2014 6:23:27 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Themselves
Their Attitude
Their Worldview
Their Victim Mentality
Their Unwillingness to look in the mirror
Their Insecurity about everything
Their Self-Absorption
Their Lack of Spiritual Foundation

Shall I go on?


6 posted on 08/15/2014 6:25:00 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: Citizen Zed

“Most years, Missouri leads the nation in black homicides.”

I would have thought Illinois with the Chicago murder rate.


7 posted on 08/15/2014 6:25:42 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Citizen Zed

What Is The Real Danger To Black People?
It’s Whitey.
It’s the “Man”
It’s those Asians.
And them “Hispanics”
It really is Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson and their ilk. Race baiters and community organizers that stir up the pot to create trouble so they themselves can profit from it.


8 posted on 08/15/2014 6:25:52 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

Don’t forget the “JOOOOOZ”!


9 posted on 08/15/2014 6:29:24 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
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To: Citizen Zed

Leftists coddling the sense of victimhood for one...

but the BIGGEST danger is paying women to have bastards.


10 posted on 08/15/2014 6:30:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Citizen Zed

I’ve never feared driving through predominantly white neighborhoods, poor or rich. Black people haven’t to worry driving through my section of town either. Why is it I have to be extremely watchful and armed when I drive through many Memphis neighborhoods or the black section of my town?


11 posted on 08/15/2014 6:35:24 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Citizen Zed

The CIA gettin’ ‘em hooked on crack.


12 posted on 08/15/2014 6:35:44 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Psalm 14:1 ~ The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Themselves
Their Attitude
Their Worldview
Their Victim Mentality
Their Unwillingness to look in the mirror
Their Insecurity about everything
Their Self-Absorption
Their Lack of Spiritual Foundation

Shall I go on?

The WORST thing that happens to these African-American boys is what happens to many boys...who are now in prison: FATHERLESS boys.

FATHERS are supposed to teach their sons how to deal with adult male authority. If they don't do this, sons often end up in the pokey.

BLACK FATHERS are supposed to teach their sons how to deal with adult male authority and adult male WHITE authority. If they don't do this, sons often end up in the pokey.

It sure beats being born in sub-Saharan Africa.
HOWEVER, in those places, AT LEAST there is a FATHER in the mix and boys learn to deal with adult male authority, which, over there, is ALL African.

FATHERLESS boys: the SCOURGE of our country.

It's the fault of the woman, of course, who ALLOWS this to happen. She really is the "captain" of the ship who steers the future generation. If SHE insisted on the RIGHT PATH, none of this would be happening.

The RIGHT PATH: education, job, marriage, children--in THAT order.

13 posted on 08/15/2014 6:38:24 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: minnesota_bound

See my post #13.


14 posted on 08/15/2014 6:39:22 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Citizen Zed

Their internal dialog, same as everyone else.


15 posted on 08/15/2014 6:44:50 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Citizen Zed
Of those 2,695 black victims, 2,447 were murdered by other black people. That’s 91 percent.

Let's get real brave and ask what percentage of white and asian murder victims were killed by a black perp?

The media rules for covering crime are as follows:
White on black = Maximum coverage
Black on black = Hushed tones of concern
Black on white = Do NOT cover this!

16 posted on 08/15/2014 6:48:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Global warming.


17 posted on 08/15/2014 6:48:19 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Barack is the wife.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Maybe the worst danger for blacks is white crackers that disapprove of their longstanding tradition of rioting every summer.


18 posted on 08/15/2014 7:01:06 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Maybe the worst danger for blacks is white crackers that disapprove of their longstanding tradition of rioting every summer.


19 posted on 08/15/2014 7:01:08 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Themselves


20 posted on 08/15/2014 7:03:01 AM PDT by Minsc
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To: cloudmountain

Women are the gatekeeper for sex, and ultimately, it is the father of the woman that is the protector of the woman.

This was because it was HARMFUL for a woman to have sex outside of marriage, because of the poverty consequences of having a bastard child.

The left has intentionally removed that disincentive for bastards and has destroyed the black community by targeting them for these disincentives.


21 posted on 08/15/2014 7:04:19 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
Women are the gatekeeper for sex, and ultimately, it is the father of the woman that is the protector of the woman.
This was because it was HARMFUL for a woman to have sex outside of marriage, because of the poverty consequences of having a bastard child.
The left has intentionally removed that disincentive for bastards and has destroyed the black community by targeting them for these disincentives.

All true.
Uh oh. I am agreeing with you.
Something is very weird here.

22 posted on 08/15/2014 7:11:42 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

100 percent correct.

The scourge of single motherhood is now marching on through the white community as well, so the government can create a nation of Godless slaves.


23 posted on 08/15/2014 7:12:41 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: cloudmountain

You must have been silently disagreeing with me for some time, then, because I don’t recall your handle.


24 posted on 08/15/2014 7:12:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cloudmountain
FATHERLESS boys: the SCOURGE of our country. It's the fault of the woman, of course, who ALLOWS this to happen

Yes, agree. Another truth that shall not be spoken:

Black women are black America's worst enemy.

Whoopee, Oprah, Shiela, Michelle all contribute.

25 posted on 08/15/2014 7:14:17 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough.)
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To: cloudmountain

I wonder if there is a correlation between that 91 % number of blacks murdering blacks and the (nearly) 91% illegitimacy rates?


26 posted on 08/15/2014 7:19:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Citizen Zed

DEMOCRATS who want to “help” them


27 posted on 08/15/2014 7:28:20 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I wonder if there is a correlation between that 91 % number of blacks murdering blacks and the (nearly) 91% illegitimacy rates?

ABSOLUTELY.

Fathers are also supposed to teach their sons to RESPECT women.

Fathers are supposed to teach their daughters to RESPECT themselves. They DO this by showing RESPECT to their wife, the mother of THEIR children.

We see what's missing, don't we?

In the following order ONLY:

1. Education
2. Job
3. Marriage
4. Children

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Without education, fatherless boys haven't a chance! So, they do what the "other brothers," also fatherless, in the projects are doing: using/selling drugs.

The REAL SHAME is that there is such a HUGE market for drugs here. Apparently Americans can't deal with reality or feel good about themselves and life without drugs. THAT IS THE REAL SHAME.

Oh, I forgot: there's nothing wrong with drugs!

28 posted on 08/15/2014 7:28:46 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: longfellowsmuse

The term “single motherhood” perpetuates the problem.

Let’s call a spade a spade, while we still can.

BASTARDITY.


29 posted on 08/15/2014 7:29:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Fine with me.


30 posted on 08/15/2014 7:33:22 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Citizen Zed

Someone needs to do the stats on:

Blacks murdered by blacks
Blacks murdered by whites - then for fun, add all blacks shot by white cops to see what that number is

Whites murdered by whites
Whites murdered by blacks

At least that might put it all in perspective - though facts won’t change one liberals mind - regardless of race......


31 posted on 08/15/2014 7:39:08 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: cloudmountain; MrB

I would also add to that idea of the church sanctity of marriage.

What very few are seeing here is not just the disincentive via the welfare system etc., but also the destruction of the morality taught by the Church regarding wife, husband, children, family...and church charity.

As I watch much of this unfold...last night I considered that the black community is actually a forewarning of things to come for the rest of us.

While we focus on the black murder rate, also consider how out of line the police authority has become in general. Shooting dogs on private property, tasering a homeless man to death, do I need to even remind everyone here of what we witnessed in the Boston lock-down, the abuse by the TSA and let’s not forget I’d bet every FReeper is on the DHS list in some fashion?

We are no longer citizens and if...if we’re poor ...we are even less than human in many cases. Just as they divided and culled out the black community for their helpful destruction...so they have moved on to the rest of us.

Why do they hate, hate church so much? Because of all the things that God represents it is the family, community, peace, charity, grace and real freedom.


32 posted on 08/15/2014 7:42:03 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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Yes, I’ve come to understand as you have that this is all a Christ vs anti-Christ spirit of the world.

Everything the humanists/leftists/satanists do is in opposition to or a cheap forgery of something Christ approves of for His creation.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 7:46:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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The biggest danger is men who go around impregnating wimmen and just moving on to the next one. The fatherless families are bad, but the fathers are the worst.


34 posted on 08/15/2014 7:51:49 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: EBH
Why do they hate, hate church so much? Because of all the things that God represents it is the family, community, peace, charity, grace and real freedom.

Family, community, peace, charity and grace require us to GIVE of ourselves. Sacrificing IS part of a good life. The Church teaches us that through Jesus.
HE is the quintessential example for us to TRY to follow. We will often fail but the joy is in the journey.

We SHOULD all know these things and if we don't then the parenting we received was INCOMPLETE.

35 posted on 08/15/2014 7:52:51 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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Are they rapists?

The answer to this is key to the solution.


36 posted on 08/15/2014 7:54:04 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: polymuser

Hmmm. I think the scourge of America is black men.


37 posted on 08/15/2014 7:54:53 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yeah, there’s a correlation. Black culture has no morals. If someone has morals, then they are accused of “acting white” That says it all right there.


38 posted on 08/15/2014 7:56:03 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: EBH

One of these days the police will be coming after conservatives. (us) Believe it.

and we can remember this man then. If we run and/or hold our hands up in surrender, it might still end with us shot to death for disrespect, arguing, even fighting. Or nothing at all.


39 posted on 08/15/2014 8:04:07 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Citizen Zed

ahhhhhhhhhh how long does it take to figure it out..... they dont give a shizzle so why should anyone else... self respect and self responsibility anyone.... it’s all available for those who take advantage of the opportunity... ask dr ben carson. ask any other person who started with little or nothing and was pushed by a parent or self motivated...


40 posted on 08/15/2014 8:04:40 AM PDT by zzwhale
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No, but they leave the family, the woman doesn’t usually, always, drive them away.
I’m not going to argue with you over degree of fault. I think one thing, you think another. ok.


41 posted on 08/15/2014 8:06:14 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Citizen Zed

Democrats they put them where they are and keep them so.


42 posted on 08/15/2014 8:28:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Shimmer1

Exactly, they gassed reporters...for what? I think we may look back on these riots as a turning point to putting big government back in its proper perspective. Sure the community may not quite understand just yet, but this may be a first step. They are still looking to government and the indoctrination schools to fix things. That has to change and that kind of change only comes from setting oneself free.


43 posted on 08/15/2014 9:54:02 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Citizen Zed

I will post the 44th comment on this thread, and none of the previous 43 responded to the article, just a jumping off point for opinion expressing. Never read this Bob Lonsberry before, but his column is the best one I’ve read on this subject. He digs up the stat that 17 Blacks are murdered in the US daily, and 15 of those murders are by Blacks.


44 posted on 08/15/2014 10:12:18 AM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: Citizen Zed
The numbers for Missouri are even more staggering.
Most years, Missouri leads the nation in black homicides.

If the protesters/looters in north St.Louie had been properly napalmed earlier in the week, the violent crime problem in that whole part of the state would have been alleviated, perhaps for several years to come.

45 posted on 08/15/2014 10:56:19 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Shimmer1
One of these days the police will be coming after conservatives. (us) Believe it.

and we can remember this man then. If we run and/or hold our hands up in surrender, it might still end with us shot to death for disrespect, arguing, even fighting. Or nothing at all.

Darn! You're just not getting much traction here with your support of this poor dead inner-city sub-human thuggish piece of trash.

46 posted on 08/15/2014 11:01:10 AM PDT by meadsjn
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I know I’m not. But I don’t see any evidence that he was a sub human piece of trash. (now the looters, they are a different story)

Can’t help it. I have to say what I see. And disappointingly, it sure seems like a lot of FReepers are glad to have a stupid, stupid kid, man, gunned down like one of the dogs we hate to see gunned down.


47 posted on 08/15/2014 12:46:38 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Shimmer1

You may be right, but I hope that you’ll manage to conceal your glee. It’s unbecoming.


48 posted on 08/15/2014 12:49:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

My glee??? Is something wrong with you?? How anyone could get glee out of what I wrote?? You must be mistaking me for the one who says he’s laughing because the man is dead.


49 posted on 08/15/2014 12:59:27 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: Shimmer1

It turns out (much to your disappointment, I’m sure) that this poor child is actually a 6 foot 4 inch, almost 300 pound thug, and your response is that we should all worry that something like this would happen to us. That’s uncalled for and low. He’s a criminal.


50 posted on 08/15/2014 1:23:26 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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